15-02-2003 05:43									#1
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Does anybody know of any good French or German bands? It seems like mostly Europe produces club music and stuff, but I was wondering if anybody knew of any good indie rock or anything similar that comes out of Europe. Anything would be good, just so long as it doesn't suck, I'm just requesting French and German because I've studied those a bit and might have slightly more of a clue as to what is being sung.

	15-02-2003 05:46									#2
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Oh...rats.

	15-02-2003 05:52									#3
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Well, my knowledge stops at around the mid-70s, but Francoise Hardy's 60s recordings are quite lovely. In a similar vein, but rather less good, are France Gall, Atoine and Hugues Aufrey.

Someone else will doubtless mention Kraftwerk, Can and Faust, so I won't bother.

Buggered if I know what either country has done recently...

	15-02-2003 05:52									#4
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Yeah, you'd think with all the Europeans around they could drop the names of a couple bands.

I'm just trying to find some decent music that's not in English. It can't be that hard.

	15-02-2003 05:53									#5
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And of course Serge Gainsbourg, Jaques Brel (well, Belgian, but French language), and Charles Aznavour for fans of the grizzled.

And Bridget Bardot might not be much of a singer, but she sounds damn sexy nonetheless.

	15-02-2003 05:53									#6
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Thanks, Seneca. I'm checking those out now.

	15-02-2003 05:55									#7
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EDIT: Meant to copy into Kazaa. Brain Fart.

	15-02-2003 05:58									#8
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Bugger - I misspelled Antoine as Atoine, so you won't find anything in Kazaa. It's not that good anyway.

You may find Edith Piaf a little dated, but she was a true great also.

	15-02-2003 06:00									#9
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Rammstein!

	15-02-2003 06:03									#10
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April March are sort of 60's French music revivalists. Which is good if, like me, you think there wasn't enough of it the first time around. They are, however, from Toronto and sing mostly in English. But, due to the somewhat unspecific nature of Kazaa downloads, I did labour for a long time under the illusion that they were a single 60's chanteuse in the Bridget Bardot mould, so I count them as French.

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	15-02-2003 06:04									#11
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Wumpscut, KMFDM :P

	15-02-2003 06:06									#12
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The Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra (still the world's finest!).

	15-02-2003 06:10									#13
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I've got Rammstein, they're well known in the States also. KMFDM (No pity for the majority?) I've heard of also. Wumpscut I'll look into.

I'm checking out some April March and Edith Piaf now. Thanks, so far everybody.

	15-02-2003 06:12									#14
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something like Kein meittlied fer de mien.... no pity for the masses/majority..... Je ne parle pas Allemagne

	15-02-2003 06:15									#15
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what about 2raumwohnung...not everybody likes them, but I for me its nice music to relax.

	15-02-2003 06:32									#16
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an illustration of the dangers of recommending music you only know from Kazaa, and of passing off superficial googling as actual knowledge

April March is a solo French singer, but from the 90's/now not the 60's. There is a Canadian band called An April March who are the first thing who come up when you google, but are otherwise irrelevant.

slinks off, reputation as french music expert in tatters

	15-02-2003 06:35									#17
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Ignore me, just use this:

http://ctomag.com/may16cto/french.html

	15-02-2003 06:48									#18
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German:

Neu, La Dusseldorf, Cluster

French:

Air, Daft Punk, Little Bob Story, Juliette Greco, Charles Trenet, Les Negresses Vertes

Dutch:

Mathilde Santing, Boulevard of Broken Dreams Orchestra

Icelandic:

Sigur Ros, Bjork, Sugarcubes

Swedish:

The Cardigans

Slovenian:

Laibach

	15-02-2003 07:28									#19
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Erm, Kreator? Germany's answer to Slayer with a lead guitarist that doesn't suck.

	15-02-2003 07:33									#20
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Paul Van Dyk is king pixi trance, and started his hobby doing underground radioshows in the East of Germany! Acquire one of his artist albums to hear what late 90's dance was lead by

Or not

	15-02-2003 13:37									#21
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HAGGARD!
"And thou shalt trust... the seer" is a very addictive CD

	15-02-2003 14:24									#22
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VIIKATE! TIMO RAUTIAINEN!

Erm, they're Finnish. But try them anyway!

	15-02-2003 16:30									#23
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Noir Désir is probably the most popular French rock band currently active. I'd recommend 'Tostaky' as their best LP.

	15-02-2003 17:29									#24
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german:
marius müller westernhagen (maybe without the 'n')
blümchen (party sounds)
die toten hosen (hard punk)
rammstein (heavy metal)
scorpions (soft metal)
nina hagen (wierdish, à la björk (=icelandic))
oli p (softy stuff)
vier gewinnt (male hip hop)
tic tac toe (female hip hop, now called tic tac two, because 'toe' left )
sarah connor (german, but she sings in english)
nena ("99 red balloons" is origionally be her)

and a lot of others

	15-02-2003 17:31									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Felch X Does anybody know of any good French or German bands? It seems like mostly Europe produces club music and stuff, but I was wondering if anybody knew of any good indie rock or anything similar that comes out of Europe. Anything would be good, just so long as it doesn't suck, I'm just requesting French and German because I've studied those a bit and might have slightly more of a clue as to what is being sung.

For French rock try SAEZ and Noir Desir. Both excellent.

	16-02-2003 03:34									#26
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French Rock :
- Matmatah
- Sinsemilia
- Noir Désir
- Mano Negra

There are also good French bands who are not playing rock, like :
- Paris Combo
- Saint Germain (electro jazz, no words)

If you're more into the 80's, I'd recommand :
- Téléphone
- Indochine

I know nearly nil. in German music, but I enjoy listending to Freundeskreis (Hip-hop), or Seeed (ragga, yes there are 3 "e"). I also enjoy Rammstein very much

	16-02-2003 03:40									#27
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Austria:
Der Blutharsch
Summoning

Germany:
Blind Guardian
Deine Lakaien
Diary of Dreams
Fortification 55
Garden of Delight
Hagalaz' Runedance
Helloween
Lacrimosa
Project Pitchfork
Sopor Aeternus
Wolfsheim

	16-02-2003 03:40									#28
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When you listen to Rammstein, you wonder: why doesn't all heavy metal bands sing in German? Heave metal in German really makes sense...

	16-02-2003 03:44									#29
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I wouldn't advise Lacrimosa to anyone... Listen only when you're sure not to want to make suicide

	16-02-2003 04:07									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I wouldn't advise Lacrimosa to anyone... Listen only when you're sure not to want to make suicide

Poor guys... Rammstein rules...