15-02-2003 17:20									#1
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hi,

I am really glad to post my first posting here in this apolyton forum.
First I want you to forgive my really bad language and grammar knowledge, because I come from Germany and I am not really that language as.

Back to the Topic.
As we can see that the german version with a german manual was canceled, all of us from moo3 planet asked themselves, what we can do next.

Finally we see there are 2 Versions - US and UK.
Our Trader Amazon.de offers only the UK Version, but they can not say, what are the differences between that and US.
We speculate that the US Version eventually has a bigger manual and some other differences.
But that is not sure.
I simply dont want to buy a game for 50 $ in a dvd case and a 10 paged-instruction-manual.

And I hope one here has an answer of my question. Infogrames Germany is not really activ in this situation and doesnt answer our mails concerning this problem.

I hope u can help me, because the US Version is more expensive and it is not offer by Amazon.de

	15-02-2003 18:09									#2
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The U.S. version will use imperial measurements, e.g. length of starlanes will be given in Gigayards, and ship speed measured in Terafurlongs per weekend*.

*excludes national holidays, except during a leap year.

	15-02-2003 18:52									#3
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This is not a funny thing.
Try to keep serious.
The answer of this question is really important

	15-02-2003 19:08									#4
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panicked?..
As I ordered by Amazon I asked wheter it was the Version with the Big Manual and so I simply will return it if not.
bah! paranoid lil' man wait till its outif you are unsure.

	15-02-2003 19:09									#5
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I know nothing about that but I really don't think that there will be a noticeable difference (if any at all) between the versions and the manual.

What I'd like to now is where you've seen that amazon will sell the UK version in Germany.

	15-02-2003 19:20									#6
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I simply mailed them , wich version they will offer.
They answer that it is the UK, but they couldnt give any information about the differences (they are not sure, if they have any)!

and plz do not associate moo3 with wait

	15-02-2003 20:19									#7
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You can always buy the polish version instead

	15-02-2003 20:29									#8
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Which is cheaper :=)

	15-02-2003 20:48									#9
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For us is polish the same like for the Americans german uninteresting

	15-02-2003 22:20									#10
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It may be cheaper to learn Polish and buy their version...
:P

	15-02-2003 22:48									#11
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It may be better when we come back to topic

	15-02-2003 23:08									#12
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What Topic? 'Infogrames Germany' is known to be noncaring regarding US/UK versions.
And all differences between UK/US versions would be pure Speculations right now

	15-02-2003 23:14									#13
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I still doubt there is any difference at all besides the copy protection.

But Main_Brain is right, no one really knows and therefore no one can tell you. Why not ask IG? I doubt that they'd tell anyone, but it's worth a try.

	15-02-2003 23:36									#14
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In Canada we get the us version. It is two discs in sleeves (not jewel cases), the manual is supposed to be over a hundred pages thick and it comes in a mini-box.

	16-02-2003 10:30									#15
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Thanks for the info rhofman! My 2 cents are that there will be no real differences between the US and UK version other than the copyright.

	16-02-2003 10:52									#16
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The UK version will automatically pause for tea break every two hours and will apologize for kicking your butt. The US version will come with no-doze pills and will kick your butt without apology.

	16-02-2003 18:45									#17
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Acturaly lightyear are use to measure distance in space an it is than nonstandard mertic measurement approval by the International Measurement Commitee.

	16-02-2003 22:48									#18
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I don't think anyone really cares about the "version" (US or UK). The biggie is if it gets a MANUAL in Europe or not.

You may not know this in the US, but we USUALLY have to put up with POS 10 page leaflets for manuals over here as nearly all games gome in dvd style jewel cases.

Can you inagine trying to play MOO3 when the instructions are only on a .pdf !!!!

	16-02-2003 22:51									#19
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quote: Originally posted by ikilledmybroker You may not know this in the US, but we USUALLY have to put up with POS 10 page leaflets for manuals over here as nearly all games gome in dvd style jewel cases.

That's the standard in north america aswell, now.

	16-02-2003 23:03									#20
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Well, they could always put it out in a mini-box, they have the same width and height of a DVD box but about 3 times the depth, enough for a chunky manual I've noticed that some games like RPG's and Compilations come that way, so maybe....

	17-02-2003 12:31									#21
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The aliens have green coloured blood in the UK version, red colored in the US version. Really.

Also the spelling is different.

-Jam

	18-02-2003 17:25									#22
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quote: Originally posted by CharlesBHoff Acturaly lightyear are use to measure distance in space an it is than nonstandard mertic measurement approval by the International Measurement Commitee.

My apologies. Thatnk you for enlightening me.

	18-02-2003 17:36									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Daveybaby My apologies. Thatnk you for enlightening me.

Than Light year is equel to about 6 trillion miles. The nearest
star from earth is about 5 LY or 30 trillion miles.

I will look up the real value of than LY.

	18-02-2003 22:17									#24
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Statement from IG:
\begin{german}

quote: Originally posted by Zett on the planetorion.de forum "in ganz Europa wird es nur die original US-Version geben. Diese wird direkt aus den Staaten geliefert und an die Händler weitergegeben. Somit sind auch alle Inhalte (z.B. Handbuch) absolut identisch mit der US-Version. In manchen Fällen sprechen Händler auch von der UK-version. Dies ist aber eigentlich ein falscher Ausdruck, denn die UK-Version ist ebenfalls die normale US-Version. Sascha Koop Online Project Manager & Customer Support Services "...

Original
\end{german}

Meaning : In Europe (including the UK) the only version for sale will be the original US-Version - completely identical with the version sold in the states (box, manual, game disks...).

	18-02-2003 23:34									#25
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Thank you for clarifying that!

	19-02-2003 11:29									#26
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Then why do Amazon US and Amazon UK show different box art? Is Amazon UK using the old poster art, and if so, why?

	19-02-2003 12:18									#27
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Than light year is 5.88 time 10 to the 12th power miles (5,880,000,000,000 miles) or 9.46 time 10 to the 12th power km (9,460,000,000,000 km) Than AU (astronomical unit is the average distance between Sun and Earth ) is equal to 93 million miles or 150 time 10 to the 6th power km..

The light year is set equal to the distance which light will travel in 365 day of 24 hour each . They donot now change the value of the light year it the speed of light is measure more accurately as the change is now than the decimal like I than going to make this up let say I measure the speed of light as 186,282.589 miles per second. In astomony their only use 2 place to the right of the decimal point anyway as we donot measure stellar distance with any great accurate anyway.

	19-02-2003 14:47									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Then why do Amazon US and Amazon UK show different box art? Is Amazon UK using the old poster art, and if so, why?

Well, I suppose amazon shows whatever picture IG gave them:
it's a rendered Box in the US,
the same box, but "pressed"(as the Box would look on the designer's screen) to 2D in Germany and an antique E3 Poster in the UK.

But honestly: I don't know.

	20-02-2003 00:29									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Kellanved Meaning : In Europe (including the UK) the only version for sale will be the original US-Version - completely identical with the version sold in the states (box, manual, game disks...).

Poland is a part of Europe and we have the Polish version not the US one...

	20-02-2003 00:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Cymrean Poland is a part of Europe and we have the Polish version not the US one...

Sorry, you're completely right - I simply interpreted the mail from IG as it is. I would never deliberately deny the fact, that Poland is a part of europe - soon even the EU.