15-02-2003 23:30									#1
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Glory of War has declared war on us. Using their 'faulty' treaty as a reason, they say we've betrayed them.

If you ask me, they were just looking for a way to declare war on us, otherwise they wouldn't have had such a change of mood... Our last chance lies in RP and their ability to get NDE off our backs...

	16-02-2003 01:18									#2
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This is truly a sad day.

	16-02-2003 01:39									#3
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Erm, how was the treaty faulty in their opinion?

	16-02-2003 02:37									#4
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No no, they thought it was binding, while it's actually faulty. They say that we should have given them Mysticism long ago (and later they'd give us Math in return, which they'd get from NDE). Problem with that situation is that either GoW goes to war with NDE (and doesn't get math), or they don't go to war with them, and we don't get any help. Basically, it's GoW inventing a reason to attack us.

	16-02-2003 15:46									#5
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Damn this sucks....

	16-02-2003 18:39									#6
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Time to get involved in the interside Demogame

I would have done the same thing as GoW does now.

	16-02-2003 18:40									#7
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Maybe join another team

	16-02-2003 20:37									#8
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Sounds like everyone has just decided to gang up on us. Not only did GoW violate the Non-agression Pact, but RP has violated the terms of the alliance. Unfortunately, if one teams declares war on you and neither of your neighbors are unwilling to abide by agreements that were agreed upon, there is not much one can do in almost any circumstance. I think we must consider this a lesson learned and use that knowledge so that Apolytonia may reign surpeme in the Multisite game.

	16-02-2003 22:06									#9
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We still have a chance for revenge, but not for a very long time...

	16-02-2003 22:36									#10
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Oh well, Im gonna buy Germans for dummies because GoW just insured that the NDE wins.

	17-02-2003 01:21									#11
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So if our last-ditch plans fail and we get destroyed, I take it we'll all emigrate to another civilization?

	17-02-2003 01:35									#12
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We've gotten offers from Neu Demogyptica and Roleplay. If worse comes to worst then we could go to either.

If we want to win, I'd go with NDE.

	17-02-2003 04:52									#13
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After further speculation, if we do get destroyed, I really would strongly lean towards NDE. They've actually been the only ones to be straight with us. The fact that is was 4 Lux guys and just Borc negotiating the treaty says a lot, and I don't really hold too much against them for the treaty. Other than that, they've just been paranoid. We were the best target, and that's how things go. GoW... well, yes. GoW needs to be taught a lesson. RP has ignored our alliance, and has no intention of even trying to help us. They too need to be taught the price of betrayal. With NDE, we will have a free hand to help them crush the rest of the continent. I don't see how they can resist using Ansars to destroy the continent. That is the kind of legacy that I would like to leave.

	17-02-2003 05:22									#14
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I actually agree.

	17-02-2003 06:53									#15
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I agree that GoW must be destroyed for their total disregard of honor. And being on NDE (despite my total lack of knowledge of German) would give us a chance to deliver that final blow...

Which isn't to say that I've made up my mind. I'd be tempted to go to RP. Or given my ability to jinx a team with my mere presence, I could just go to GoW. However, right now the most likely situation may be dropping out of the PTWDG altogether...

	17-02-2003 07:06									#16
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Darekill was very cordial said that even if we didn't know German that they would still find a way to accomodate us, and give us a fair say on what goes on. I think it's more than a fair deal, and I now feel obligated to get revenge on GoW and to some extent, RP.

	17-02-2003 13:37									#17
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Yeah, and there is always altavista babelfish... and it'd be cool to brush up on my deutsch.

	17-02-2003 14:17									#18
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Someone could go to GoW as a spy.

	17-02-2003 14:35									#19
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I say that regardless of what happens, we keep our private forum to discuss important game matters.

	17-02-2003 16:12									#20
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Trip - you've even got a German flag next to your name ..! Your German should do well enough...

I could translate a bit for you, since my German is more than adequate.

	17-02-2003 23:30									#21
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Hmm, since NDE doesn't have a private forum on apolyton, I suppose that this forum could become the forum for English-speaking NDE matters.

	18-02-2003 00:33									#22
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That's a possibility.

They have a huge set of forums over at their website. Quite a big community too.

	21-02-2003 19:37									#23
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Personally, I think I foresaw this doom, and honestly, I believe that my character, being the honorable and loyal servant that he was has probably died on the battle field. I hope my soul finds good purchase in the afterlife, having ensured that all of the civilians fled before the hordes...