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Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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According to the local papers and news most of the world is now backing a war in Iraq. According to the paper only France, Germany and Belgium among NATO members refuse to support the war. Mind you, this paper identifies Russia as a NATO member!

Because I'm not quite certain about the quality of reporting I'm hearing, I'd like to get the straight poop from 'poly members around the world. What is your nation's governments offical position?

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If you don't trust the quality of the paper, I'd not believe it. If the NY Post asserted such a thing, I'd believe the opposite.

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IIRC, only Spain, the UK, and one other country supports the US in the Security Council, while the rest of them are against. So that will be a 11-4 if any war resolution comes before the SC.

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UK:

Officially: We support the USA and would like a UN backing but would still go ahead if we don't get it.

Unofficially: There is no public support at all for this war. Nearly 1 million people went to london on one of the coldest days of the year to protest against it. The largest protest in British history.

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UK:

Officially: We support the USA and would like a UN backing but would still go ahead if we don't get it.


Hasn't Blair been backing down to go at it alone?

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From what I hear Belgium refuses to allow NATO to send defensive missiles to Turkey in this stadium. Belgium is not opposed to a war, if the UN sanctions it and if NATO doesn't get involved.

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My country has no government

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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The population of Turkey is vastly opposed to the war, even though the government is (reluctantly) cowtowing to the U.S. for now.

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The news has been pretty subtle, but I've been able to read through the lines and figure out that the US supports the US on the issue of military action against Iraq.

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The PRC: against
Locals: against - an anti-war protest took place yesterday, which is one of the bigger ones we have recently. We also had a 36-hour anti-war music (e.g. Lennon's Imagine) marathon.

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Israel :

More pro than the US.

The people take it as a fact, so almost no one complains.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
According to the local papers and news most of the world is now backing a war in Iraq. According to the paper only France, Germany and Belgium among NATO members refuse to support the war. Mind you, this paper identifies Russia as a NATO member!


But that's just fantastic, Strangelove!

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eli, is that really something to smile about? the implosion of world diplomacy?

Giovanni Wine is offline Giovanni Wine
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Italy

Officially the government supports the war.

Unofficially the Italians do not support the war, as we managed to have 3 Milions peace protesters (i was within them) marching in Rome yerstuday, having the biggest manifestation in Europe and matbe the World as well.

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Italy

Officially the government supports the war.

Unofficially the Italians do not support the war, as we managed to have 3 Milions peace protesters (i was within them) marching in Rome yerstuday, having the biggest manifestation in Europe and matbe the World as well.

Saluti


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except when they voted for Berlusconi.

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The government in Ireland has leapt off our comfortable fence recently to support the US. The Taoiseach has indicated that even in the event of war he will still allow US airplanes to refuel in Shannon. The government has not openly come out and said that they support the war so there's still a bit of amibiguity about it, but their policies seem to suggest otherwise.

The majority of the population however do not support the war. Estimates of 80,000 - 100,000 people turned up in Dublin for the Anti-War March yesterday.

Giovanni Wine is offline Giovanni Wine
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except when they voted for Berlusconi.


Unfortunatly...

As Boris said, we are good in many things... but when it comes to politics it would have been better if we stayed under Austro-Hungarian control

Saluti

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Unfortunatly...

As Boris said, we are good in many things... but when it comes to politics it would have been better if we stayed under Austro-Hungarian control

Saluti


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quote:
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As Boris said, we are good in many things... but when it comes to politics it would have been better if we stayed under Austro-Hungarian control

IIRC, Italy was never under Austro-Hungarian control.

quote:
From what I hear Belgium refuses to allow NATO to send defensive missiles to Turkey in this stadium.

It looks like that situation has now been settled. Turkey will get the defensive help from NatO they asked for.

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IIRC, Italy was never under Austro-Hungarian control.


He may be from Northern Italy, which was for some time.

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Unfortunatly...

As Boris said, we are good in many things... but when it comes to politics it would have been better if we stayed under Austro-Hungarian control

Saluti


You were never under Austro-Hungarian control! There was a time when the dual empire had possession of Venice and Lombardy, and further back in history there was a time when Hapsburgs sat on the throne of the Kingdom of Two Sicilies, but that is all.

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IIRC, Italy was never under Austro-Hungarian control.


The Venice and Lombardia regions were.


Edit - Triple cross post.

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I wonder what happens if when American troops occupy the whole country it turns out that Iraq had no WOMD?

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I wonder what happens if when American troops occupy the whole country it turns out that Iraq had no WOMD?

Won't we be embarrassed?

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I'm sure the US will have some mock weaponry they can use for show and tell.

Also the US can just say they destroyed all the weapons and evidence of weapons with their cruise missile firestorm.

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LOL

I was obviuosly joking

Anyway, where I'm from we never were under Austro-Hungarian Control, it was actually the only completely independent region (a bit of French influence perhaps) and my region is actually the one which liberated Lombardy and Venice from Austrian control.

As for other regions:

Lombardy and Venice were Austrian provinces
Tuscany was an Austrian Vassal (when the Medici dinasty died and the Lorraine came to power there)
Modena and Parma were under Ausburgs
The Pope was always seeking for Austrian help here and there
The Two sicilies were under the Borbon.

Than of course there was the Kingdom of Sardinia, with Torino as Capital (that's where i'm from), which was eventually the one which unified all the Italian states, including Lombardy and Venice.

Saluti

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Also the US can just say they destroyed all the weapons and evidence of weapons with their cruise missile firestorm.

Thier would still be traces of the stuff even after a "cruise missile firestorm" unless we started using low yield nukes to make sure we got all of the NBC material in an area.

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I wonder what happens if when American troops occupy the whole country it turns out that Iraq had no WOMD?


nothing will happen, because it won´t be brought up and no one would really care.

 
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