17-02-2003 21:48									#1
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Money - GOOD!

Turn 0 (1395 AD, beginning of turnchat)
- Sell Spices to Greece for 18 gpt (total: 360 gold, they can't afford to pay any more).
- Sell Steel to Babylon for 22 gpt and 36 gold (total: 476 gold, they can't afford to pay any more).
- Sell Motorized Transportation to India for 200 gpt and 91 gold (total: 4,091, they can't afford to pay any more).

Turn 3
- Our Rubber for 26 gpt deal with England ends. Attempt to renew Rubber for gpt deal with England. Attempt to maximize profit, but don't settle for less than 500 gold total (if they can't afford it, then they can't afford to have Rubber. Mwhahahaha!!).

Turn 4
- Attempt to renew Dyes for Ivory deal with Greece. If they are willing to continue this deal, or even throw some gold in as well, take it of course. Otherwise, if they demand more, see if we can work out some deal where we give them a tech in exchange for money and ivory. However, if they won't be able to afford paying 500 gold (in gold, gpt or mixed) or more for our tech, pay them in gpt (Dyes + x gpt for their Ivory). I will most likely be able to participate in this turnchat, but I leave these orders just in case.

General Orders
- Check for tech deals every turn. Sell any tech (preferably the oldest and cheapest one, if we have a choice) to any civ if they are willing to pay 700 gold (in cash, gpt or mixed) or more.
- If something unexpected turns up and I am unable to participate in this turnchat, any or all of the above orders may be changed, should they become harmful or inappropriate. I recommend that the present cabinet be polled on any changes to my orders before they are made.

Any questions?

	17-02-2003 22:20									#2
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Thanks, Shiber. I'm posting this in the orders thread.
If you need to edit it, just post here or there...

	17-02-2003 22:33									#3
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No probs.
Btw, in case you've missed the note, I'll be able to participate in this turnchat.

	17-02-2003 23:39									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber No probs. Btw, in case you've missed the note, I'll be able to participate in this turnchat.

Hurrah!

	18-02-2003 01:00									#5
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You're in a good mood. Save that for the turnchat!

	18-02-2003 01:06									#6
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Edit: OH MY GOD, IT'S A DOUBLE POST!!

	20-02-2003 22:37									#7
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* bump *
New administration, yet same FAM.
Nothing has changed in-game, though, so my orders for Aro's cancelled chat move on to Thud's first chat as president.
50 hours to the first turnchat of Term 9, and counting...

	01-03-2003 16:23									#8
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Please detop.

	01-03-2003 16:25									#9
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I'm trying to compile my orders, but the save I downloaded from the turnthread thread seems to be corrupted. Could someone please post the current save here?

	01-03-2003 18:31									#10
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Same here. I downloaded it twice, to be sure.

Edit: detopping, as you requested.
Btw, I'm really concerned about this ZpellZ thing...
I still with the mod powers (don't get me wrong MarkG, it's a privilege! ), but I have no right to this. So, I'm only topping or detopping threads when requested, or if it's a Senate Bill, or a turn thread.

Last edited by Aro on 01-03-2003 at 18:41

	01-03-2003 18:56									#11
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Thanks Aro.
I guess I'll have to wait until someone posts a working save before I can compile my orders. Bummer, I was hoping of doing this at least 24 hours before the chat begins.

	01-03-2003 19:42									#12
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hi ,

the save works fine , .....

have a nice day

	01-03-2003 19:58									#13
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I tried downloading it a number of times and each time, I received an error saying that the file is corrupted. Do you want a screenshot?

Or perhaps you could do something constructive and post the save you are using, which you say works.

	01-03-2003 20:06									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber I tried downloading it a number of times and each time, I received an error saying that the file is corrupted. Do you want a screenshot? Or perhaps you could do something constructive and post the save you are using, which you say works.

hi ,

downloaded the 1405 save , unzipped it and it plays , ......

, maybe its because of a firewall or so , ......

sorry , no post from this place , no save on this comp , maybe later tonight , ......

have a nice day

	01-03-2003 20:08									#15
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hi ,

oops , found the dvd rw with the save in the bag , .....

have a nice day

Attachment: banana of the egyptians, 1405 ad.sav
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

	01-03-2003 20:13									#16
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , oops , found the dvd rw with the save in the bag , ..... have a nice day

hi ,

two test downloads from other comps and the thing works , .....

have a nice day

	01-03-2003 20:59									#17
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You are using the wrong save. The latest is 1410 AD, and it does not work, according to Aro and myself. Thanks for trying to help though.

P.S. Did you compile your latest orders according to the 1405 AD? If so, I suggest that you check if they need to be changed once the correct, working save is posted, since we'll be starting from 1410 AD, as far as I understand.
P.P.S. Firewalls don't corrupt information. They either allow the packets to pass through or deny it, but they don't actually touch the data segment of the packet. IDSs do check and sometimes alter the data segment, but hardly anyone has an IDS installed on his PC, and those that do know how to use and configure them properly.

	01-03-2003 21:11									#18
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hi ,

hang on here , .....

1405 was posted as the last , ....

okay , well the orders stay the same , ...

so , where is that corrupted save , lets see what canbe done , .....

can you post in Shiber

have a nice day

	01-03-2003 21:48									#19
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quote: Originally posted by panag 1405 was posted as the last , ....

Incorrect. You can find the summary of what was done in 1410 AD here, along with the save.

	01-03-2003 22:07									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Incorrect. You can find the summary of what was done in 1410 AD here, along with the save.

hi ,

save opens fine , no problems what-so-ever , ....

have a nice day

	01-03-2003 23:13									#21
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , save opens fine , no problems what-so-ever , .... have a nice day

Not from where I'm standing.
I downloaded the file several time, and got the same error each time.

	02-03-2003 00:05									#22
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Exactly what I got.

	02-03-2003 20:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber Not from where I'm standing. I downloaded the file several time, and got the same error each time.

hi ,

okay , this is very strange , .....

an other test was done today with an other comp and it worked , just downloaded it and used winzip 8.1 , nothing more to it , .....



have a nice day

	02-03-2003 20:14									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber You are using the wrong save. The latest is 1410 AD, and it does not work, according to Aro and myself. Thanks for trying to help though. P.S. Did you compile your latest orders according to the 1405 AD? If so, I suggest that you check if they need to be changed once the correct, working save is posted, since we'll be starting from 1410 AD, as far as I understand. P.P.S. Firewalls don't corrupt information. They either allow the packets to pass through or deny it, but they don't actually touch the data segment of the packet. IDSs do check and sometimes alter the data segment, but hardly anyone has an IDS installed on his PC, and those that do know how to use and configure them properly.

hi ,

alladin and finjan products when used not correctly can cause errors , .....

have a nice day

	02-03-2003 20:25									#25
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Try 1.29 on it see if it works then.

	02-03-2003 20:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Nimitz Try 1.29 on it see if it works then.

hi ,

downloaded in the two versions and it goes , ....

have a nice day

	02-03-2003 20:55									#27
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The chat is in only a few hours, and I still can't compile my orders. Damn.

quote: Originally posted by panag an other test was done today with an other comp and it worked , just downloaded it and used winzip 8.1 , nothing more to it , .....

Zip? What Zip are you talking about?
Thud posted the last turnthread save in a .sav file, as far as I've seen, and IIRC, no president has ever zipped the SAVs that he posted.
Perhaps either one of us is using the wrong save. Could you post in here the save that you have used to write your 1410 AD orders?

	02-03-2003 21:32									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber The chat is in only a few hours, and I still can't compile my orders. Damn. Zip? What Zip are you talking about? Thud posted the last turnthread save in a .sav file, as far as I've seen, and IIRC, no president has ever zipped the SAVs that he posted. Perhaps either one of us is using the wrong save. Could you post in here the save that you have used to write your 1410 AD orders?

	02-03-2003 21:34									#29
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hi ,

you just download the save , the unzip it to saves in the infogrames folder , .....

, , maybe we should meet in the chatroom now and try to find out what is going on , ......

Aro , care to join us , ...

have a nice day

	02-03-2003 21:47									#30
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This is not a zip archive, Panag. It's a .sav file.
When I try to open it with Winzip (yes, I'm using 8.1, and so is everyone else. This version is several years old), I get this error, which makes it absolutely clear that this is not a zip archive.

Attachment: zip.gif
This has been downloaded 13 time(s).