04-05-2003 17:01									#61
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	04-05-2003 17:03									#62
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	04-05-2003 20:59									#63
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Um... I didn't send my save to anyone but Khan - did I screw up?

Or is the issue somewhere else in the line? Sorry if it's me, but I haven't had any emails or anything yet telling me off. I've so far only got the one save - not sure what turn it was.

	04-05-2003 21:38									#64
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No biggy you send the turn to the player and C.C. the turn to the moderator.

That way when someone screws up the moderator can turn track and keep the game flow going.

This game is a classic of what not to do and why.

	05-05-2003 05:34									#65
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Hey Pete resend the turn to Geoff, thats what I have to do in our side games, sometimes I don't hear from him in a week or so then I do that and most times that gets us moving again. Also we have that challenge in New World at times, Usually I will resend the turn to Geoff when Ken starts posting that he hasn't gotten it after a week or so.

	05-05-2003 07:34									#66
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	06-05-2003 00:55									#67
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Well despite you, I'm still IN Blackice!
You don't owe this game and you can't kick out anybody!
You are here to help us not to bully us.
Beside moderator should be unbiased to all players, which you are simply not and the best thing you can do is to leave this game to us players. We can certainly do it better without you and your prejudices.

About my last turn, I send it BEFORE, do you hear BEFORE, your mail to stop the turns. So much about your fairness.

	06-05-2003 02:24									#68
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	06-05-2003 11:17									#69
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Let me explain again.
You do not owe that game (in fact you are just our employe) and YOU CAN NOT throw me, or anybody else, out because of your prejudices or any other reason. Period.

Players CAN.

I'm asking here players:
Do you agree Kralj Matjaz is kicked out of this game?

	06-05-2003 14:34									#70
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I do think blackice is misrepresenting Kralj - first saying that he was Kralj was not copying him turns despite the fact that every turn I have ever received from Kralj was copied to him, and then saying

quote: They ignored me and sent the turn on anyway.

when nobody sent any turns on after you'd told us not to. Kralj was only trying to do the best thing he could in the circumstances - I think I would have sent the turn on too (just in case, as he said), and might not even have noticed that it was the wrong one.

Perhaps Kralj nexting me was out of line, and he should have emailed blackice about it instead but my lack of playing was not very nice either, and given that he thought you had the turn and had done nothing it was understandable.

I don't know what Kralj is doing in other games blackice is moderating, but blackice seems to be overreacting a little here.

	06-05-2003 16:10									#71
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I don't know what's going on, so I have no opinion on this at present.

BTW, turn 51, I believe (the last one I received) has been sent on to Eric.

	06-05-2003 17:07									#72
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MrWhereItsAt until I'm not kicked by players, please send turns to me and not to Eric.

	06-05-2003 18:06									#73
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	07-05-2003 08:38									#74
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MrWhereItsAt please dont send any turns until this is sorted out, the last turn i had sent was 52, so obviously something is messed up. I dont know any of you well enough to even try to find a solution to the problem so im gonna let you guys solve it.

	07-05-2003 10:59									#75
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Thanks Protoss please send turn 52 again to Geoff, if he does not respond I will play his turn for him.

That people is the way it should be done...

Turn 52 resent to Geoff...

Game is a foot again

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	07-05-2003 11:32									#76
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Protoss72000 strike that Geoff just got in touch and regrets he has no time to play his turns, he has asked to be replaced in all his games.

Hey Chit happens hope to see you back soon Geoff

MrWhereIsItAt I will play Geoff's turn until we find another replacement, his civ will not be nexted...It will be played and sent soon. It will be turn 52 and this game is on, lets get going.

Black

	07-05-2003 11:54									#77
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Turn to MrWhereIsItAt 52 you send it to Eric, Eric you will receive turns from Mrwhereisitat granvisimo@student.vuw.ac.nz
and send them to Jbytheway:
jjb48@cam.ac.uk

Lets get this game going without the bs, it is a game after all...

	07-05-2003 16:32									#78
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All players hold the turns untill this mess is sorted out.

Keygen you as game starter will have to help us out of this.

	07-05-2003 21:56									#79
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Thanks Kralj the moderator has straightened the mess out. Please in the future do not tell people to put turns on hold or any other commands or functions that the moderator should handle.

Email the moderator, bring it to thier attention, wait for the moderator to sort out the mess. They usually are in the best position to do that and have volunteered to do that.

That is what we have all agreed to do from the onset right? Ok then we have players and we have moderators that is the PBEM way has been for some time now...

Thank you for your co-operation.

Keygen has helped the moderator, and indirectly the players already Kralj, thanks again for your suggestion but it has been done already.

Black

	08-05-2003 02:24									#80
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As any of players voted I'm kicked of the game, I'm still in. We'll all continue to play when everything is settled and you are free to spoil the party somewhere else!

	08-05-2003 04:20									#81
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Thanks for your input Kralj, we'll all keep it in mind the next time you you next a player without anyone's input.

	11-05-2003 07:54									#82
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Turn on its way to Eric.

	11-05-2003 12:22									#83
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Send the turn to me MrWhereItsAt!!! I'm still ruler of the Mongols.

	11-05-2003 15:10									#84
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Hey! I have not seen forum for two weeks and now I have heard that I am out! Can anybody explain it?

	11-05-2003 19:48									#85
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AeroPrinz I got tired of emailing you reminders and playing your turns, we now have someone that is interested in playing.

Black

Kralj I suggest you find another game to moderate this one has one.


Black

	11-05-2003 23:16									#86
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So AeroPrinz did not quit??
You changed him without warning?
You changed him without consulting with players?
Do you think you are god?

NO, you are NOT!!

Trying to change three players just to revenge me?
I should be flattered, but I think it's just sick.

	12-05-2003 00:30									#87
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Kralj the more you make up these stories the better it gets Keep going better yet write that fiction book about how everyone must follow rules but you. Better still how when they don't they whine.


Did you consult the players, let me restate that have you ever in any game you have played consulted players when you next them? The answer Kralj is no you do not follow the rules unless it concerns you this is just one more example.

It is fascinating how much you whine when you are hit with the rules yet you could care less about the rules. That much is obvious.

Keep posting it makes for entertaining reading, but not for the weak or the sick..

	12-05-2003 01:57									#88
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quote: Originally posted by blackice AeroPrinz I got tired of emailing you reminders and playing your turns, we now have someone that is interested in playing.

You are caught lying again.

In entire 2003 I have received ALL turns from Aeroprinz and not from you.

	12-05-2003 02:25									#89
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you're funny Kralj please stop my sides are splitting.

Now Kralj how many times was he warned to play the turn? Now Kralj how many times did the game go on hold waiting for him to play his turns. I am a very lax moderator and unless someone emails me that they want to get the game going I wait patiently for the players as most do, with the exception of you of course...

Now Kralj do you think you know more about what goes on behind the scenes of the game or the moderator?

You make yourself look more foolish with each and every post, have at it it makes for good humor.

Moderators do not babysit players they do replace players to keep the game flow going. Players do not next thier opponents that is cheating in the worst kind Kralj.

Between the two of you, you have stopped or delayed this game too many times to count, you have been replaced. I am sure the other players would like to get on with the game and have thier thread back, but feel free Kralj to endlessly whine it is your style.

Aero 3 days wait 4 days wait endlessly and better yet I can not find one single email to the moderator let alone a post here you Kralj nice try though you would have been a good contestant on "What's my line".

	12-05-2003 05:19									#90
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Now Kralj I have answered all your questions but you have not answered a thing.

Tell the good people here why you nexted a player, without emailing the moderator first, asking the players thier opinion on the matter and continue to disrupt the game without asking the moderator or the players.

IMHO the last few days have proven exactly what I am saying about you and prove you could care less about what others think in this game.

On top of all this complain about rules to be followed while you are simply ignoring them.

It only took a few threads and a bit of rope and look what you have shown us.

You need to follow your own advice and better still learn these games are not about you...