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monkspider is offline monkspider
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2773161.stm

Turkish Prime Minister Abdullah Gul has said the country's parliament is unlikely to vote to allow in tens of thousands of United States troops before the conditions of the deployment have been agreed
Parliament had been expected to vote on the issue on Tuesday, but this now appears unlikely.

Any delay could hinder US plans to open a northern front in the event of an assault on Iraq.
Mr Gul's comments came after the Nato military alliance finally agreed on measures to improve Turkey's defences in the event of war.

He said differences remained between Turkey and the United States over the political, economic and military dimensions of the deployment.

"We are of the belief that it will be difficult to convince parliament before an agreement is reached," Mr Gul said.

Appeal to EU

A key sticking point appears to be the level of economic aid that the US would give Turkey to compensate it for any losses incurred in case of war with Iraq.
Mr Gul, fearing an influx of Iraqi refugees, has also called on the European Union to provide financial assistance if conflict breaks out.

The EU has already begun drafting contingency plans for aid distribution in consultation with aid agencies and the Turkish Government.

Disagreements between Turkey on the US also remain on military issues such as the command structure in case of a joint Turkish-US operation in northern Iraq, home to many Kurdish people.

The developments come after worldwide protests at the weekend against a US-led war in Iraq.

The Turkish public is overwhelmingly against any war in Iraq.

Hundreds of demonstrators gathered on Monday outside the US embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, to protest against American policy on Iraq.

Nato agreement

Turkish leaders have said they will only back a war against Iraq in the last resort, but the government has also said that it cannot afford to remain neutral in the event of conflict.

The US is a key ally of Turkey, lobbying for Ankara to be accepted into the European Union and for international agencies to grant Turkey loans to recover from a deep economic crisis.

Meanwhile, Ankara has expressed satisfaction with Nato's decision on improving Turkish defences.

After a week of wrangling, the alliance's Defence Planning Committee agreed to initiate measures for Turkey, which has asked for Patriot anti-missile batteries and Awacs radar planes to protect its south-eastern region against possible attacks from Iraq.

Belgium, France and Germany had earlier stopped the 19-member alliance from initiating military planning, arguing that this would sent the "wrong signal" while diplomacy continues in an attempt to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction.
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An interesting development, considering the recent NATO fiasco. Will this seriously complicate US invasion?

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The NATO agreement was reached yesterday so the article appears dated.

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Oerdin: It was posted on BBC news mere hours ago.

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Sorry, when they said "agreement" I thought they were talking about NATO agreeing to supply Turkey with the equipement it requested but it seems they're fishing for more dollars. Here's the key quote from the BBC article:
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A key sticking point appears to be the level of economic aid that the US would give Turkey to compensate it for any losses incurred in case of war with Iraq.

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Sorry, when they said "agreement" I thought they were talking about NATO agreeing to supply Turkey with the equipement it requested but it seems they're fishing for more dollars. Here's the key quote from the BBC article:


No worries old chum. Admittedly it was confusing language on BBC's part in light of the NATO fiasco.

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I am pretty sure the Turks will eventually be brought along on our side. They have too much interest in making sure that no independent Kurdistan forms from the whole mess.

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90% of the Turkish people oppose the war (must be the Greek blood in them)

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Got spare money?

They no longer care about Kurdistan, as its population will be more concerned in getting a new country in northern Iraq

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2020: 40% of turkish population will be Kurds.

No point stopping the waves

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Seriously:
The Turks have been ****ed up by the previous war AND the continious emabrgo on Iraq. Turkish ecnomoy BACKSTEPPED 9,4%.
The economic crisis in Turkey is inhuman.

(Thanks US )


So they fear a repetition of all that, plus a free Kurdistan (go Kurds )

So they try to suck the US dry of money and weapons in order to give the go ahead.
They will eventually, they don't have much of a choice, unfortunately.

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must be the Greek blood in them



I'm sure feta is responsible for this! BAN IT NOW

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BUY GREEK. DON'T SETTLE FOR DANISH IMMITATIONS!!!!

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Danish feta is SO much better than Greek one! Don't fund the EVIL Greek people!

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Little fact to boost nationalism: Saladin was a Kurd.

GO KURDS!!! Blast those freaking Iraqis and Turks to smithereens.

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_Danish feta is SO much better than Greek one! Don't fund the EVIL Greek people!

HERETIC!!!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!!! (with a couple of juicy T-bones)

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Little fact to boost nationalism: Saladin was a Kurd.

GO KURDS!!! Blast those freaking Iraqis and Turks to smithereens.


Really? wow

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Greeks.. (weird!- consider the sound of it: greek! it's gr-eek! scary)

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it's also grrrrr...

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Agreed with Paiktis here : BURN ALL THE HERETIC DANISH-FETA EATERS !!!

It's horrible to see all this "feta" from cowmilk in the supermarkets

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BURN THEM!

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I war does break out, and it does look likely, Turkey will lose not only US dollars if it fails to cooperate, it will lose US support for keeping the Kurds in an unified Iraq.

The Turks would be absolute fools to sit this one out.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2773161.stm

Turkish Prime Minister Abdullah Gul has said the country's parliament is unlikely to vote to allow in tens of thousands of United States troops before the conditions of the deployment have been agreed
Parliament had been expected to vote on the issue on Tuesday, but this now appears unlikely.


Ahem.

I have already created a thread on this ages ago.

Hi mods, please kindly lock this thread. Discussions can continue in the original thread.

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