18-02-2003 06:16									#1
	Customization of Colors, Names, and other such things? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

To anyone in the know, from betatesters to designers to reviewers:

Is it possible to customize any and all of the following?

- System names (especially home system, as in other MoO games)
- Empire map color (not just the flag, but the color - how many empire colors are available? are all of them accessible to human players? do you get a choice?)

Admittedly small issues, but they are ones that have not been satisfyingly answered that I've seen thusfar... and these aren't exactly like hiding information about the Ithkul... this is just feature stuff.

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	18-02-2003 07:04									#2
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I am no beta tester, but I have heard you get no choice in either of those matters.

	18-02-2003 07:50									#3
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Yes, from what I've seen on IGMoo forums, You can pick your flag, but color is assigned randomly. Also you cannot rename systems.

	18-02-2003 08:24									#4
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If this is true... bah, humbug.

I want to name my home system and I want to decide my own color... I'd think this wouldn't be too much to ask. Seriously... MoO and MoO2 both had those options (hell, MoO and MoO2 let you rename a system each time you colonized it or re-colonized it ).

Would it really be that hard to let the players customize the star names and choose their map color???

	18-02-2003 08:47									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos If this is true... bah, humbug. I want to name my home system and I want to decide my own color... I'd think this wouldn't be too much to ask. Seriously... MoO and MoO2 both had those options (hell, MoO and MoO2 let you rename a system each time you colonized it or re-colonized it ). Would it really be that hard to let the players customize the star names and choose their map color???

To give the standard IGMOO answer...

It must not have been 'fun'.



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	18-02-2003 12:35									#6
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Well, don't give up...keep showing up and voicing your issues in a constructive and civil fashion. The reason that I say that is that the game developers have said in an interview here:
http://www.ugo.com/channels/games/f...3/interview.asp
...that they intend to add to and alter the game, based upon what feedback they get in the forums and boards. So don't give up on your ideas!

	18-02-2003 13:03									#7
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Well... in defense of the ability to name systems and planets whatever you want and to establish your own map color as you deem fit...

Does it add functionality to the game? No.

Does it make any difference in gameplay? No.

Is it an amazingly impressive graphical feature? No, it's an incredibly simple one.

Does it add color to the game? YES! (pun intended )

It may not do a whole lot in some people's eyes to add to a game, but some of us take enjoyment from little bits of added color (pun intended again) to games like this. If I play the Silicoids (which I generally like play), I may want to have my home planet named Cryslon like in previous games. Or if I play the Humans, I may want my home system to be Sol (as it should be ) for the color/roleplay value if nothing else.

Granted, it's not a make-or-break thing, but it adds a little bit of extra enjoyment for something that I'd think would be extremely easy to implement (but I fully admit I don't know the first thing about that stuff ).

Would be much appreciated if added.

Hope Rantz and company are listening...

	18-02-2003 20:30									#8
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Your questions has been discussed a million times in both Infogrames and Apolyton forums.
As well the replies by BT and the *antz-brothers.
IIRC the reason for both is the multiplayer feature.

	18-02-2003 20:44									#9
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I'm with Arnelos on this one, at what about customizing graphics, how can I make an Amazon version of Moo3 without that ability?


Hmmmm?

	18-02-2003 21:10									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy Your questions has been discussed a million times in both Infogrames and Apolyton forums. As well the replies by BT and the *antz-brothers. IIRC the reason for both is the multiplayer feature.

And now, as it was then, its still a relatively weak response.

Moo2 had MP, and you COULD do it.

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	19-02-2003 05:48									#11
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Pallidyne is spot on.

How much extra work did it take them to add this feature to MoO2? Seriously... I don't know much about programming, but I seriously doubt that this very hard. 4x games since 4x games were invented have used different colors by player and allowed you to pick which color you played.

Perhaps not allowing players to pick their map color has to do with that 5th X?

	19-02-2003 08:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos It may not do a whole lot in some people's eyes to add to a game, but some of us take enjoyment from little bits of added color (pun intended again) to games like this. If I play the Silicoids (which I generally like play), I may want to have my home planet named Cryslon like in previous games. Or if I play the Humans, I may want my home system to be Sol (as it should be ) for the color/roleplay value if nothing else.

Actually, the Humans shouldn't start on Sol, nor should the Silicoids start on Cryslon. As you'll read in the backstory when you get the game, the new orions had the races stuck on zoo worlds for a long time before the game started.

As for not being able to pick your colour, it was meant to stop players fighting over red in MP. I'd like it to be changed in a patch but if it isn't it's not a big deal.

	19-02-2003 08:20									#13
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And they're idiot programmers. MoO1, MoO2, and MoM had no "back story" and they we're great games, shoe-horning players into this MP-inspired idocy of not being able to name stars and the like was just plain stupid...

	19-02-2003 08:46									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Perhaps not allowing players to pick their map color has to do with that 5th X?

ineXplicable?

	19-02-2003 08:48									#15
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I don`t see how 'but for MP' can be an excuse for anything. Just don`t have it in MP!

	19-02-2003 08:53									#16
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I have no problem with the backstory, think it's immensely cool. Didn't know about the zoo worlds part, though (somehow I missed that when I read the posted background story that was on QS's site oh how many months ago now...).

I can understand that, then. Still would be nice to re-name the system or other systems to taste, however ('Terminus', anyone? ).

It's also true that since the designers apparently made the game almost infinately customizable on purpose in other degrees (such as with the spreadsheets), it would make sense to let players rename things or select names when they customize the game in this manner.

Thanks for letting me know about that element of the background story, though. I don't have as much trouble with the Silicoids not starting on Cryslon if their really detailed background story includes such (though I'd still like to be able to name the starting system something appropriate).

As for race colors... you do it the same way that MoO2 did it. Everyone can whine about someone else getting red or orange or brown or whatever, but the players can select their color in the order in which they joined the server (or something like that). That system worked pretty well for MoO2.... can't see why they'd ditch it for abandoning color selection altogether.

Thanks for replying, though

	19-02-2003 14:30									#17
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May-be you cannot change the system name because with the idear of starlanes in the game linking starsystems together it might make it hard to maintrain the starlane links
when you save the game it you are allow to change the system name it is my opion only as I donot work for any of the companies or is than betra tester.