18-04-2004 19:52									#181
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It isn't dead yet, im making another project right now, when its done, ill make this one.

	05-05-2004 21:58									#182
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Since there hasn't been any updates about this scen for a long time, i thought it would be good to post one now

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	05-05-2004 23:02									#183
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Nice (scrap the other project)

	05-05-2004 23:18									#184
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Indeed it's nice FiGu.. We're all longing for this one.

	06-05-2004 02:19									#185
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quote: Originally posted by Arthedain Indeed it's nice FiGu.. We're all longing for this one.

Ditto!

	07-05-2004 02:56									#186
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What other project could you possibly be working on?

	07-05-2004 04:24									#187
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Afaik it's Red Storm Rising.
(CDG readers know more )

	07-05-2004 21:15									#188
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Oh, and I've also starting on making a new map of Finland.. It's a lot more realistically and bigger.

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	07-05-2004 22:04									#189
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I am glad you haven´t forgot about that Patrik!

I suggest you decide whether you go with one unit style or another but not with them mixed up

	07-05-2004 23:54									#190
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Yeah, I'm going to soon post an updated units list... but while waiting, here's some swedish volunteers rushing to the fronts to help Finland..

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	08-05-2004 01:04									#191
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Some Finns with Maxims should do some damage

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	08-05-2004 15:59									#192
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And here's a heavily updated Units.gif, its not done yet though.

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	09-05-2004 18:35									#193
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Looks great FiGu!
Keep up the good work mate!

	09-05-2004 18:43									#194
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Absolutely great units!

	09-05-2004 21:16									#195
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Thank you.
About 5% of the new map is done..... It really takes long time to makes these.

	11-05-2004 20:47									#196
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Will FF just be about Talvisota or will it also cover Jatkosota and Lapinsota?

	12-05-2004 18:41									#197
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I'm currently making FF part one, that is, talvisota, later I shall include Jatkosota and Lapinsota and perhaps the Finnish Civilwar.

	14-05-2004 19:23									#198
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I just begun placing out cities, and I thought i could post a Picture in the process...

Here's Karelia!

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	14-05-2004 22:25									#199
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Oikein hyvä!

	15-05-2004 00:11									#200
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Kiitos! All the cities have been almost placed.... then technologies and units.

BTW, I've thought about using Stackables in this scenario... Should I use 'em?

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	15-05-2004 01:04									#201
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Hmm... Seems that the balance of power will be hard to create. When Russia invaded the Karelian Isthmus, they assaulted with about 1400 tanks, while the defenders had roughly 67 outdated anti-tank guns, and still managed to stop them.

	15-05-2004 01:10									#202
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Well, if it was the skill of the defenders, you could just give them a high att/def rating.

	15-05-2004 06:45									#203
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quote: Originally posted by GoPostal Well, if it was the skill of the defenders, you could just give them a high att/def rating.

And give them high cost or make them appear only through event, to make the player use caution when using them

	15-05-2004 13:16									#204
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Thank you for your comments!

I've also begun thinking about creating two other techs:

Allied Intervention: You get a few transports off the norwegian coasts loaded with troops, but you lose your Swedish Support thus, all Swedish Volunteer Units are disbanded and you are at war with them.. (The Allied true intentions was to take the Swedish Iron Ore mines)

Deployment of Swedish Regular Troops: You begin to get Swedish Regular Troops (They will be good), and more volunteers.

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	20-05-2004 14:04									#205
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quote: Originally posted by FiGu Thank you for your comments! I've also begun thinking about creating two other techs: Allied Intervention: You get a few transports off the norwegian coasts loaded with troops, but you lose your Swedish Support thus, all Swedish Volunteer Units are disbanded and you are at war with them.. (The Allied true intentions was to take the Swedish Iron Ore mines) Deployment of Swedish Regular Troops: You begin to get Swedish Regular Troops (They will be good), and more volunteers.

I always thought that the Allies only wanted to stop Sweden from exporting the iron by capturing some key ports in Norway, not actually attack Sweden. (you realy learn something new every day)

	15-10-2004 09:12									#206
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quote: Originally posted by gerryandersson I always thought that the Allies only wanted to stop Sweden from exporting the iron by capturing some key ports in Norway, not actually attack Sweden. (you realy learn something new every day)

The allies (well, Churchill mostly) planned to take Narvik, then use that to occupy the Swedish ore mines in the far north, and then go on to support Finland against the Soviet Union.

And will this scenario ever be done?

	22-10-2004 00:10									#207
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I think this scen is too hard to do. The Finnish troops during the war were damn good. The difference between Russians killed compared to the Finnish casualties is immense! How can someone create that in a game?

	22-10-2004 13:29									#208
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It is doable (geez, was that even a word? ), and about the Allied thing.... I read from some offical finnish documents which said that the Allied troops had strict orders not to engage the Russian troops.

This scenario probably will be released around christmas... I really don't got any time for it at the moment.

	12-12-2004 01:21									#209
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YAY it would be a perfect christmas gift

	12-12-2004 03:07									#210
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quote: Originally posted by Stalin II I think this scen is too hard to do. The Finnish troops during the war were damn good. The difference between Russians killed compared to the Finnish casualties is immense! How can someone create that in a game?

I think it would actually be an interesting concept - a scenario where the human player's units were much better than the AI's units. Naturally the AI would have a much larger number of units, and a greater production capacity.

This would cause the human player to really husband his/her units carefully. Not many scenarios that I've played call for that approach (most seem to be about rushbuilding key units, as opposed to working with what you have).