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Eli is offline Eli
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Is there an official figure?

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If one searchs for that also look for how many Afganis died.

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I'm pretty sure that far more Americans died in accidents (namely helicopter crashes) than in actual combat. Not certain, though.

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I'm pretty sure that far more Americans died in accidents (namely helicopter crashes) than in actual combat. Not certain, though.


It makes sense, but i'm looking for an official number with a list of names and circumstances of death.

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Have you checked the DoD webiste, or maybe the Army's?

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That will probably take a while to come out in full.
Just as the US attrocities in Afganistan will take a while. (cluster bombs used to clear forests thrown on people etc) Just think Vietnam, it sure took a while for the info to get out.

Hundrends of Afganis being shot inside trucks and left to die of suffocation while the US army was just looking is just the tip of the iceberg.

The failure of Bush to stick to the rebuilding in Afganistan is known because it simply can't be hidden so easily.

I'd say amuzingly enough (but I can't since so many people died) that most American casualties came from.... friendly fire... (since most brave fighting was just 10.000 feet bombing)

Can't take those speed pills for ever. Theater of the macabre really.

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Ok salom.

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Not very many I think. It is news whenever we do take a casulty there.

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I'm pretty sure that far more Americans died in accidents (namely helicopter crashes) than in actual combat. Not certain, though.


I'm certain that several of those reported "accidents" were actually combat deaths, too.

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"2 americans died after accidentally falling on taliban bullets"

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More Canadians were killed by Americans then by Taliban. 3 died when bombed by an errant American pilot while executing training manuevers.

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In an article from February 7, it was 20 combat and 29 non-combat deaths. Some of the non-combat were pretty far removed from Afghanistan but I guess they were considered supporting forces.

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According to the following, as of Feb 4, '03, there were 15 deaths from hostile fire, 48 non-hostile. Total = 63. Includes one CIA officer.

http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/oefcasualties.cfm

The White House says 52 dead in whole operation (not just Afghanistan) plus one CIA officer through October 7, '02.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/d...ingfreedom.html

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Here's a list of 47 as of ~ Jan. 30, '03. Includes circumstances of death, when available.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/D...Casualties.html

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If one searchs for that also look for how many Afganis died.


Won't knowing how many Americans died make you happier though?

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Is there an official figure?


In addition to the published casualties, casualties (if any) in certain SOCOM units would be classified, to conceal the presence and nature of mission of those units.

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DanS, MtG : Thanks.

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In addition to the published casualties, casualties (if any) in certain SOCOM units would be classified, to conceal the presence and nature of mission of those units.


hi ,

Eli , here is a list from socom personel that died ;

1980
CW2 Bobby M. Crumley
SP4 Timothy Hensley

1981
CW3 John W. Williams
LTC Michael C. Grimm

1982
SGT Ricky D. Zizelman

1983
CW4 Ralph L. Thompson
CW2 Donald R. Alvey
SGT Claude J. Dunn
SP4 Jerry L. Wilder
PFC Gregory D. Eichner
CW4 Larry K. Jones
CW3 Thomas B. Crossan III
CW2 James N. Jansen
SSG Mark J. Rielly
SSG Luis A. Sanchez
SSG Mark D. Cornwell
CPT Robert E. Brannum
WO1 Allen E. Jennings
CW2 David W. Jordan
CW3 William H. Tuttle
SP4 Richard J. Thompson
CPT Keith J. Lucas

1985
1SG Ronnie R. Orebo

1987
CPT Frederick M. Maddock II

1988
CW3 Stephen A. Hansen
CW3 Jerry H. Landgraf

1989
1LT John R. Hunter
CW2 Wilson B. Owens




1991
CPT Charles W. Cooper
CW3 Michael F. Anderson
SSG Mario Vega-Velazquez
SSG Christopher J. Chapman

1993
MAJ Robert P. Mallory
CW4 Clifton P. Wolcott
CW3 Donovan L. Briley
CW4 Raymond A. Frank
SSG Thomas J. Field
SSG William D. Cleveland Jr.

1994
CW3 Carlos P. Guerrero

1995
SSG Edwidge Pierre
SGT Jeffrey D. Tarbox

1996
CW5 Walter M. Fox
CW3 Pierre R. Desroches
CW3 William R. Monty Jr.
SSG Tracy A. Tidwell
SSG Bradley C. Beem

1997
SGT Edward G. Palacio

2002
MAJ Curtis D. Feistner
CPT Bartt D. Owens
CW2 Jody L. Egnor
SSG James P. Dorrity
SSG Kerry W. Frith
SSG Bruce A. Rushforth, Jr.
SGT Jeremy D. Foshee
SGT Thomas F. Allison
SGT Philip J. Svitak

2003
CW3 Mark O'Steen
CW3 Thomas Gibbons
SSG Daniel Kisling
SGT Gregory Frampton



one guy is in a coma but they wont release his name , .... lets hope he does not make it to the list , ....

no new stars yet this year in the cia building , ..... that means they did not lost some-yet this year , .....

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March 06, 2002

Serviceman killed in Afghanistan was following dad's footsteps

The father of one of seven U.S. servicemen killed in Afghanistan said his son was following his footsteps into the military and hoped to also follow him into teaching.

Army Private First Class Matthew A. Commons, 21, "served his country and he loved his country," said Gregory J. Commons, 50, a Marine veteran who served in Vietnam and whose father also served in the Marines.

"He mirrored my life in a lot of ways," Gregory Commons said in a telephone interview from his home in Alexandria, Virginia.

Matthew Commons was single and listed his hometown as Boulder City, Nevada, a community about 30 miles east of Las Vegas. His divorced parents now live in Virginia.

The elder Commons, a history teacher, said his son visited his middle school classroom in Fairfax County in December, dressed in his Army Ranger battle dress uniform. He planned to follow his father into the classroom once he left the military, Gregory Commons said.

"There are times he said to me, 'You did OK,'" Commons said.

Matthew Commons and six other soldiers were killed Monday during the bloodiest operation of the war - an air and ground offensive against al-Qaida forces in the snowy eastern Afghanistan mountains near the town of Gardez. An American soldier was also killed Saturday.

Commons also grew up in Indianapolis, Indiana, and leaves behind relatives in central Indiana who plan to travel to Virginia for his funeral on Monday. He will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

His grandmother, Martha Commons, of Indianapolis, described her grandson as "full of fun" and noted that he followed his father's path into the military after high school.

"I have some misgivings about war - period," Martha Commons said. "I'm not bitter. I would prefer that we weren't over there."

"Matt is a good example of what's right about kids in America," said Lynn Stewart, a Boulder City High School government teacher and Vietnam veteran who said he remembered Commons well.

"He was a good, solid kid," Stewart said. "He loved his country and was willing to put his life on the line."

Pam Murphy, a mother whose son, Shawn Murphy, was a close friend with Matthew Commons, said the family had seen Commons at Christmas.

"He was excited because he was training to become a Ranger," Pam Murphy said. "He was a good and honorable kid."

Commons was a member of the 1st Battalion of the 75th Ranger Regiment, based at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, Georgia.

Gregory Commons said the Army told him his son was engaged in a rescue operation when he was killed.

"He gave his life to save the life of another Ranger," the elder Commons said.

He said he and his wife, Patricia, had two sons, Matthew and Aaron, now 18, before they divorced in 1986. Matthew Commons lived with his mother, now Patricia Marek, outside of Boulder City, but spent summers with his father. Aaron Commons now attends college in Colorado.

Matthew Commons was a soccer player, a class officer and an honor student. He graduated from high school in 1999, but dropped out of the University of Nevada at Reno and joined the military for "some structure," said Gregory Commons, the ex-Marine.

"When he called to tell me he joined the Army, I said, 'You did what?' He was tough, he was macho. He was proud of being a Ranger."

Commons, an Indiana native, said he and his former wife agreed after their divorce to put their differences aside when it came to raising their two sons. She returned to Virginia to share their grief. Patricia Marek could not be reached for comment.

"We cried through the night," Gregory Commons said. "He took the best from the both of us.

"He was a good kid. I'm going to miss him."

Former high school girlfriend Brittney Haworth, 20, of Las Vegas, said Commons had been e-mailing and calling her from Afghanistan every few weeks.

"He was an amazing guy. When he first told me he was going over there, I was really scared, but I was really proud of him," said the Mandalay Bay resort hostess, who dated Commons for about a year. "He was excited to be doing what he was doing and he was doing exactly what he wanted."

Commons is the second Nevada serviceman to die since fighting began in Afghanistan. Jason Disney, an Army specialist from Fallon, died February 13 at Bagram Air Base, 40 miles north of Kabul, Afghanistan, when a large piece of equipment fell on him.

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"They and all who are participating in Operation Enduring Freedom are heroes. They put their lives on the line on behalf of freedom and on behalf of America, and they do it each and every day. I'm so very proud of them and their comrades in arms."

General Richard B. Myers


MAJ Curtis D. Feistner
CPT Bartt D. Owens
CW2 Jody L. Egnor
SSG James P. Dorrity
SSG Kerry W. Frith
SSG Bruce A. Rushforth, Jr.
SGT Jeremy D. Foshee
SGT Thomas F. Allison
SGT Philip J. Svitak

2003
CW3 Mark O'Steen
CW3 Thomas Gibbons
SSG Daniel Kisling
SGT Gregory Frampton

United States Air Force:
MSG William L. McDaniel II
SA Jason D. Cunningham
TSGT John A. Chapman
SSG Juan M. Ridout

Special Forces
CWO Stanley L. Harriman
MSG Jefferson D. Davis
SFC Nathan R. Chapman
SFC Daniel H. Petithory
SSG Brian C. Prosser

Ranger
SGT Bradley S. Crose
CPL Matthew A. Commons
SPC Marc A. Anderson
SPC Jonn J. Edmunds
PFC Kristofor T. Stonesifer

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CPO Matthew J. Bourgeois

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hi ,

Eli , here is a list from socom personel that died ;

...

1983
CW4 Ralph L. Thompson
CW2 Donald R. Alvey
SGT Claude J. Dunn
SP4 Jerry L. Wilder
PFC Gregory D. Eichner
CW4 Larry K. Jones
CW3 Thomas B. Crossan III
CW2 James N. Jansen
SSG Mark J. Rielly
SSG Luis A. Sanchez
SSG Mark D. Cornwell
CPT Robert E. Brannum
WO1 Allen E. Jennings
CW2 David W. Jordan
CW3 William H. Tuttle
SP4 Richard J. Thompson
CPT Keith J. Lucas

Looks like 1983 was a bad year for them.

What happened in 1983?

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The Beirut bombing IIRC.

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You forgot the "hi, have a nice day" stuff

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The Beirut bombing IIRC.


hi ,

dont forget some ops conserning hostages , ........

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haha...them taliban really got us running now !


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hi ,

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