20-02-2003 02:47									#1
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quote: THIS EMAIL IS NOT TO BE SHARED WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE OF ROLEPLAY AND GLORY OF WAR. While I agree with some of your assessment, there are somethings I take a different view on. My observation is that Roleplay has concentrated on building settlers and defenders, which is great for Rexing but no so great for battle. To ND this would be like the Cool Whip to their desert so to speak, they simply march down there and harvest your empire and never have to build settlers themselves. Our civ has built Barracks in all our cities and located all of them on hills behind rivers. With the exception of our wandering warrior scouts, all of our units our Veterans, thus any ND attack would have to fight fortified Veteran Spearman across a river with a hill defensive bonus. We don't have much space so we do not have the growth potential to become a major threat whereas Roleplay, if left alone could be their doom. ND has made many comments to us about the luxuries and vast Wheat resources their scouts have uncovered in the south, and I get the impression they feel that land is their manifest destiny. Lux had poor land, ND took them out because they found them annoying, not because they wanted their land.

This just received from GF (actually, he sent it a bit ago, but I did not get it until now.) I find my worse fears comming true reading this, even knowing GF's history of misleading to come to most faverable results to him. WE MUST PREPARE TO DEFEND OURSELVES WITH AN OFFENSIVE FORCE NOW!!!

GK

	20-02-2003 02:59									#2
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That's what I've been afraid of all the time...

	20-02-2003 03:49									#3
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*hears a rising sound from somewhere in the black hearts of men*

...to secure peace, we must prepare for war!!!!!

	20-02-2003 03:54									#4
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I have called for it for a long time now. I argued this from the beginning. We had better be prepared to form a giant army, or we will be crushed. Personally, I do doubt we shall survive a Neu Demogyptican/Warmonger offensive.

We have a conundrum. There is one great ultimatum put forward now.

Build an army, or be destroyed.

We have no choice.

	20-02-2003 04:58									#5
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Do note this is pretty typical Ghengis Farb propoganda. There's some truth to it, perhaps, that they may have excellent defensive city placement but I doubt all of their cities are uber-secure as their military is just as strong (weak?) as ours.

Our border cities were intentionally put behind rivers. We have a jungle that slows our enemy's movement. All we need to do now is quickly get defenders to the front, and then continue a balanced approach of expansion and military.

Do not get too alarmed by Ghengis. They want us to view Neu Dem as a boogie man. It makes us feel a need to cozy up to them all the more.

Neu Dem is dangerous when underestimated, but they still are not warmongers. However, at the moment, I imagine we are more on their "bad side" as we have taken the expansion sites they wanted. We must prepare and must continue to keep a happy facade. We must also look for an opportunity for Neu Dem to fully distrust GoW and determine that they are too dangerous to remain alive ... the same thing Neu Dem did with Lux Invicta.

--Togas

	20-02-2003 05:52									#6
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I'm getting tired of the happy facade...
but I guess we gotta keep that mask anyway, since we are so weak.

I suggest we prioritize a long term tech-plan to acheive medieval units. Then we will sit with all the aces, if they don't have them.
Be optimistic!

	20-02-2003 07:55									#7
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Señors:

This might be propoganda. However, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING MAN!?!?!? ND is out to get us!!! Do you seriously think they believed LI could put up a fight worth 5 sword??? Ok, they might've been buzzed too, but the truth is unbelievably clear and to need any more evidence would be akin to beating a dead chickens' brains out with a club "just to make sure." (Bad analogy. I know.)

The truth, in the event anyone is on some good stuff, is:

ND wants to kick our collective Spanish ass.

Thus, we MUST get ready for war!

As part of the massive effort this must require, my estate has immediately opened a workshop where the slaves learn to guerilla-fight and fight in lines (ooc: actually aren't both good for ancient time? /ooc) along with weapon-making. In addition, I pledge to Grand Despot Togas 15 slaves for the war effort and 10 of the men of my clan for the war effort. (That's not a lot; we reproduce a lot .)

Spamish Mitchell
Really Old Guy In a "War-ish" Mood Today

	20-02-2003 12:00									#8
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GF *MAY* simply be trying to wind us up and/or get us to slow down our devleopment, but I don't think we can afford to risk it. We need the cpacity to, at the very least, make the prospect of attacking us too costly for ND to attempt.

	20-02-2003 13:51									#9
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Yes, while this is most likely wartmongering propoganda, the fact is it could be true. And if it is we should be prepared.

Last edited by Thrumble on 20-02-2003 at 19:48

	20-02-2003 16:55									#10
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This message doesn't surprise me, I only feared it would come once. Thatr is why I insisted on a large military. For the time being, I suggest that we try everything to get a close relationship with ND. They mustn't see us as their big opponent, but as a good friend who only seeks peace.

Aidun

	20-02-2003 23:08									#11
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It could very well be propaganda, but even if it is propaganda...it still is true. The Neu Demogypticans have grievances...they want the land we have and refused to give them. We see them heading for our only iron deposit...we must act now, or be swallowed up and destroyed. If we ignore this message, throw it out as propaganda, we may sign our death warrants.

	21-02-2003 05:07									#12
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quote: They mustn't see us as their big opponent, but as a good friend who only seeks peace.

Okay, Aidun, that's it. Where's the stash? I'm not going to inform on you, I just want some. That's gotta be some good stuff to make that your opinion.



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Señor Calamari is right! The Neubie Demons must be stopped! Build the Army! Return Glory to Spain! We will not become the France of modern times!

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