21-02-2003 07:37									#1
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	21-02-2003 18:04									#2
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GuObs: Affirmative. Intercepting white bandit.
Enter Santiago borders, look and see where he goes... first south.

- Col. Sanchez

	21-02-2003 19:33									#3
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Pamplona: The worker will be completed this turn. He is free to perform whatever task takes priority (please, say the iron, *fingers crossed* )

Please reset the WF's to typical...

code:
     shielded grassland, #2
     cattle bonus, #7
     cattle bonus, #8

	21-02-2003 19:34									#4
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Visigoth Slaves: Move W to connect Santiago
workers near Madrid: Rename to Arnelos Slaves and move NW to cut the forest.
Pamplona workers: Rename to Ruby_maser Slaves and move to the forest to cut it

decided after considering all the reasons exposed by the different family leaders

Last edited by OliverFA on 22-02-2003 at 01:38

	21-02-2003 19:47									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ruby_maser (please, say the iron, *fingers crossed* )

Hehe, nice one, but I do not agree.
Why don't we put him on the moutain to begin the big road, and then put those in Madrid to start from the other side. It would take a while to road it even using three workers. What do we need the iron for if we cannot produce swords in Madrid?

	21-02-2003 19:53									#6
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Barcelona : no changes.

I suggest that the Magyar warriors go to Barcelona and fortify in, and that the Barcelona warrior takes the Magyar's place in order to gain skills against the barbares.

	21-02-2003 20:01									#7
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quote: Originally posted by ThePlagueRat Hehe, nice one, but I do not agree. Why don't we put him on the moutain to begin the big road, and then put those in Madrid to start from the other side.

Why not put him on a mountain and disband him? We are not gonna need him when we are all speaking German...

	21-02-2003 20:23									#8
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The original plans for the Pamplona worker were to build the road between Pamplona and Madrid, but since thw situation seems quite bad it needs some discussion.

Frankly, we need both things for our defense. Without the Pamplona-Madrid road, Madrid has it much more difficult to send units to the border (they take several more turns) and has no access to the iron or the horses, not being able to upgrade/build swordsmen. On the other hand, just one worker alone will take forever to road to the iron.

	21-02-2003 20:40									#9
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I prefer that Madrid were able to build Horsemen ASAP. Then I suggest to start building the Madrid-Pamplona road.

	21-02-2003 21:13									#10
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quote: Originally posted by oliverfa Frankly, we need both things for our defense.

Well, we could have had teams of two double up on both projects if it weren't for the upcoming forest-chopping festival near Madrid

	21-02-2003 21:40									#11
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I second ThePlagueRat and Astrologix : build the Pamplona-Madrid road, soon to be named *la voie sacrée* (name given to the road bringing reinforcement to Verdun).

	21-02-2003 21:54									#12
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A question for the people who want to build the road between Madrid and Pamplona (and to Madrid Governor if he is out there):

Would you prefer the slaves to build the road instead of cuting the forest?

	21-02-2003 22:00									#13
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quote: Originally posted by oliverfa A question for the people who want to build the road between Madrid and Pamplona (and to Madrid Governor if he is out there): Would you prefer the slaves to build the road instead of cuting the forest?

No, cut the forrest first, then assign the Arnelos worker to build the road.

	22-02-2003 01:40									#14
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This has been a very difficult decision. Both options have good reasons to be taken. But after looking carefully at all the reasons given (and knowing that Saragossa is going to pop another worker) I've choosen to follow the original plan and cut the forest, because Madrid timing depends on it.

	22-02-2003 02:16									#15
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Madrid expedition : NW

	22-02-2003 04:21									#16
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Just one thing I noticed:

Changing the slider to 70% science 30% tax gives us 2 more gold per turn and no change in time to get Literature (still 4 turns)

	22-02-2003 06:44									#17
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Lux accepted math for 40g.

Changed build queue in Pamplona to spear as Madrid will be building barracks next and will not have a spare spear to lend to protect the new settler. Pamplona will have to make it's own spear.

spear moves W
GuOps moves S (but barbarians are no longer spotted)
Bulger E (spot Picahulu!)
Ma Exp NW (no more Lux city!)
Fero N (hope to find barbarian camp soon)
magyar SW (on patrol for barbarians. Will continue to hunt for barbarians until reaching Elite strength)

Visigoth slaves W
Ruby slaves NE to build road to Madrid (override order to cut forest)
arnelos worker NE to forest

Slider moved to 70% Lit in 4 turns, 6gpt

No change in relative military strengths

There are Macromani tribes near Santiago!

Take a look at these images and tell me if ND is scouting or up to no good.

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	22-02-2003 22:25									#18
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Scouting to prepare to be up to no good if you ask me - may be to send that settler due next turn down to settle south of our cities.

	22-02-2003 23:11									#19
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Which settler señor jdjdjd? I thought the only settler they had was the one that settled the city next to Santiago

	22-02-2003 23:16									#20
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code:
SCORE:
RP:  90 (+1)
ND:  71 (+9) The city next Santiago
GS:  69 (-1)
GoW: 68 (=)
Vox: 59 (+17) Capital border expansion
Lux: 10 (-24) Worst than stalled...

CULTURE:
GoW: 136 (+4)
ND:  129 (+4)
Vox: 129 (+7)
RP:  123 (+4)
GS:   94 (+2)
Lux:  94 (+2)