21-02-2003 15:43									#1
	United States greatest threat to world peace behind Iraq, North Korea came third Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

According to a poll of Australians....

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/co.../0,5478,6015917^661,00.html

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	21-02-2003 16:10									#2
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Here's the actual link:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/co...917^661,00.html

	21-02-2003 16:12									#3
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Hmmm, Indonesia only ranked in at 4% ?

	21-02-2003 16:21									#4
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IIRC, the US placed first in a recent UK poll.

	21-02-2003 16:22									#5
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Its not a serious response, its a flippant answer.

	21-02-2003 16:27									#6
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Why? I would give the US as my top answer too, and I'd be serious.

	21-02-2003 16:34									#7
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Was Hitler a threat to world peace in 1939, well he wasn't if you let him do what he wanted. It was the UK and Frnace who caused a world war by standing up to him.

	21-02-2003 16:41									#8
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That is laughable.

You need sometimes to make war to guarantee and to have longer lasting peace.

	21-02-2003 16:45									#9
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But then if the US are going to start a war it's also accurate that in the short term they are a threat to world peace. Depends how you interperet the question.

	21-02-2003 16:48									#10
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Depends how you interpret "world peace". The US are actually defending it by attacking Iraq.

	21-02-2003 16:52									#11
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger Was Hitler a threat to world peace in 1939, well he wasn't if you let him do what he wanted. It was the UK and Frnace who caused a world war by standing up to him.

Saddam isn't Hitler.

	21-02-2003 16:52									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Depends how you interpret "world peace". The US are actually defending it by attacking Iraq.

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So what we are saying is that the question is so open to individual interperetation depending on what your view of the current situation is that the results are meaningless.

	21-02-2003 16:54									#14
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Yes.

Because it is obvious the US aren't the biggest threat to world peace.

	21-02-2003 16:54									#15
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Going to war is defending peace, because war IS peace.

	21-02-2003 16:55									#16
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	21-02-2003 16:56									#17
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I suppose the real question is, when is 'world peace' no longer worth the price in human suffering?

	21-02-2003 16:56									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Yes. Because it is obvious the US aren't the biggest threat to world peace.

Yes. Quite. Of course. What a delightful argument.

	21-02-2003 16:57									#19
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk I suppose the real question is, when is 'world peace' no longer worth the price in human suffering?

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	21-02-2003 17:00									#20
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk I suppose the real question is, when is 'world peace' no longer worth the price in human suffering?

You mean, when is the price in human suffering caused by war less than the price in human suffering caused by not going to war.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Yes. Because it is obvious the US aren't the biggest threat to world peace.

Count the number of wars initiated by various countries after WWII. Which country comes up most?

	21-02-2003 18:50									#22
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But did those wars threaten World Peace ?
I don't think so. Still, I agree with the opinion that the U.S. is the biggest threat to world peace (more than Iraq and DPRK). But what is the alternative? Being conquered by the middle east in the end probably. So it's good the US does something about dangerous countries.

	21-02-2003 19:01									#23
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If those wars didn't threaten World Peace, how would other countries be a threat? This is clearly silly.

	21-02-2003 19:07									#24
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Those other countries aren't a threat to world peace either

	21-02-2003 20:01									#25
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	21-02-2003 20:03									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Count the number of wars initiated by various countries after WWII.

Real wars or just armed disputes?

	22-02-2003 13:32									#27
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH You mean, when is the price in human suffering caused by war less than the price in human suffering caused by not going to war.

Exactly.

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aparently saddam is going to kill 500,000 of his own people in the first few days of a war now? wait, thats the US

	22-02-2003 13:49									#29
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No, I thought we were going to kill 4,000,000.

Wait -- that's the Phillipines.

We still have to fit in that 1,000,000,000 over in China...

	22-02-2003 13:53									#30
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yeah, yeah, the figures really dont matter until they come in i suppose...but i dont think killing iraqis directly is somehow better than the status quo.