21-02-2003 17:14									#1
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I'm fed up with English UU.

I was thinking of modding it so everyone has the MOW and give Engalnd the ironclad as its UU

I don't do graphics and files, I can only use the basic editor.

Will this unbaalnce the game

	21-02-2003 17:44									#2
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Hard to say. I got fed up with frigates struggling to sink galleons so I changed frigates to 3.2.4 and removed bombardment, changed MOW to 4.3.4 (with bombardment), moved ironclads to Industrialisation and made them 6.4.4.

That all seems to work OK and makes the MOW significantly better than the unit it replaces (which is probably what you are looking for).

	21-02-2003 18:24									#3
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I changed it the ironclad, and found it did unbalnce the game. The Ai hardley ever builds naval units anyway.

	23-02-2003 07:37									#4
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Most surprising; I suck at timing the building of naval units, and normally I spend turns and turns until I get naval supremacy; the AI likes to build naval units in my games.

	23-02-2003 15:08									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Deathwalker The Ai hardley ever builds naval units anyway.

Well, not quite, it depends on the game and/or on the age.

I've seen the AI build fleets of caravels - 20 or so ships (visible after I install a spy) and galleys.

Having said that, I've NEVER seen the AI build a carrier.

	23-02-2003 16:17									#6
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I play with continents on standard maps and move between building and war so my games go into the modern age. The AI certainly does build carriers and uses them. It also escorts them with battleships.

I only build a few frigates/ironclads and wait for combustion to really expand my navy. I have certainly seen the AI build 8 or 9 battleships plus a few other naval units.

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quote: Originally posted by fittstim Having said that, I've NEVER seen the AI build a carrier.

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm9/ad1800-Conspiracy.htm

Oh, they build them alright. I think it has to do with how long the game lasts and whether the AI is still competitive in the late game.

	23-02-2003 18:36									#8
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I didn't seen AI building nukes...

	23-02-2003 18:55									#9
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I've been nuked enough times too tell you that they, in fact, do build them.

	23-02-2003 21:59									#10
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If your lone destroyer or cruiser suddenly gets bombed out of nowhere in the middle of the ocean, trust me, it's a carrier!

	23-02-2003 22:09									#11
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You should delay the Ironclad to a later tech so Frigates and MoWs become useful. You could also forbid th Ironclad to cross ocean.

	25-02-2003 07:29									#12
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I would actually suggest that, in order to keep the Frigate useful, for longer, you can do so both by slightly delaying the advent of the Ironclad, and by setting the movement cost of non-coastal tiles to more than 1. Then, I would give the Frigate the Ignore movement cost ability, thus keeping the frigate relevent by making it one of the sole combat vessels which can operate effectively on the high seas! In addition, you might want to introduce an earlier version of the battleship, which is faster and more effective than Frigates (and cheaper than a normal battleship), about the early to mid Indutrial age
Anyway, just some things to consider.

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.