23-02-2003 09:54									#1
	Turn 3 Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

CFC posted that the address the save was sent to belongs to a person who is unreachable. Therefore I went through the complex task of recreating our turn. After much effort and great hardship, I was able to hit 'enter'.

I did note that the French built last turn. Everyone now has a capitol. Also interesting, with 1 shield production we are 6th in Mfg Goods, with 2 shields we are 3rd, and with 3 shields we are first.

	23-02-2003 10:19									#3
	Re: Turn 3 Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by notyoueither CFC posted that the address the save was sent to belongs to a person who is unreachable. Therefore I went through the complex task of recreating our turn. After much effort and great hardship, I was able to hit 'enter'.

I hope you didn't sprain your finger

quote: I did note that the French built last turn. Everyone now has a capitol. Also interesting, with 1 shield production we are 6th in Mfg Goods, with 2 shields we are 3rd, and with 3 shields we are first.

Vondrack & I were discussing that today, with the turn 2 save. What this means is that 2 of the other Nations are producing 3 SPT, 3 of them are producing 2 SPT and the other 2 are producing 1 SPT.

As we are producing 1 SPT, we are 8th in Productivity and that means of teh other 2 that are producing the same, they are ahead of us in Food and/or Trade. Without the save being available yet, I can't look and see what our Productivity rank is for outputs of 2 and 3 SPT.

E_T

	23-02-2003 10:51									#4
	Full PM-box? Change here!

What types of tiles produce 2 shields?

Game, forest, and shielded cattle. Am I missing anything?

	23-02-2003 12:56									#5
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Oops, sorry for that... CFC is sort of difficult to handle... on the first turn, they had no contact email listed at all... then I got an Email from Chieftess asking for the save... so, for Turn 3, I naturally assumed - not being informed otherwise - that I am supposed to send it to her again. My bad.

nye, sorry for all that extra work!

Also, I apologize for not posting a report immediately. Had it been a turn even slightly more exciting, I would have done that. But with just hit-enter turn, I went to bed instead, finally getting some sleep (slept very little over the last three days).

	23-02-2003 12:58									#6
	Re: Turn 3 Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I did note that the French built last turn.

One thing that our analysts will certainly notice. The French must have settled on a luxury tile. Their score is 16 instead of 15 - the only possible explanation is 15 for the territory and 1 for a happy face. Since they did not settle on the very first turn, they must be sitting atop of a luxury with their capital.

	23-02-2003 13:39									#7
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

So they must have settled their second turn I'm assuming. That has to be the reason. I'm guessing they were at 15 after turn one (during our turn 2).

But shouldn't they start gaining points immediately after settling?- even without the luxery? Is it possible Possum hasn't settled yet? I'm not certain, I almost always build immediately, so I'm not sure how the points start adding up after you delay building your first city.

	23-02-2003 13:50									#8
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Dissident So they must have settled their second turn I'm assuming. That has to be the reason. I'm guessing they were at 15 after turn one (during our turn 2). But shouldn't they start gaining points immediately after settling?- even without the luxery? Is it possible Possum hasn't settled yet? I'm not certain, I almost always build immediately, so I'm not sure how the points start adding up after you delay building your first city.

The French settled on Turn 2, so they should have 15 points right now (=after their Turn 2), the same what Possum currently have. But they have 16... which leads me to believe they must be atop of a luxury.

You do gain points from the very turn you settle, but the score readings are not updated until the full turn (all players) is played.