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Sava is offline Sava
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Seizure is believed to be largest ever in Southwest

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) --In what is believed to be the largest-ever marijuana bust along America's southwestern border, U.S. Customs Service officers have seized nearly 20,000 pounds of marijuana from a tractor-trailer, officials said Saturday.

"This is a huge seizure," said Michael Turner, special agent in charge of the U.S. Customs office of investigations in San Diego. "Any time we can prevent 10 tons of narcotics from entering the streets of America, it's a great day for the U.S. Customs Service."

Friday afternoon, the truck was crossing into California from Mexico with a load of computer circuit boards. At a scheduled inspection at the U.S. entry port of Otay Mesa, California, just south of San Diego, a drug-sniffing dog summoned officials to the back of the rig, customs officials said.

"When the 30-foot trailer was opened, inspectors found numerous boxes containing packages with a green leafy substance that field-tested positive for marijuana," officials said.

In all, officials seized more than 4,000 packages weighing nearly 20,000 pounds. Customs agents estimated the marijuana's value at more than $9 million.

Customs agents arrested the truck driver, Carlos Ibarra, 39, of Tijuana, Mexico.

The seizure tops previous marijuana busts in the Southwest. In April 2001, customs officers intercepted more than 15,000 pounds of the drug at Otay Mesa. Earlier this month, officers found 12,600 pounds of marijuana at the El Paso, Texas, border station.

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Good Job! I'm so glad our Customs agents are worrying about marijuana when there are real criminals and terrorists out there trying to smuggle in WoMD to the US. I saw on "Round Table" this morning that only about 1% of cargo containers that enter the US are inspected. It reminds me of what Oppenheimer said in 1946 when asked if someone could smuggle in a nuclear weapon and detonate it in New York:
"Of course! The first person to try will succeed"

So while our tax dollars are being wasted on tax cuts to the rich and our homeland security dollars are being spent on busting marijuana smugglers (a substance that should be legal anyways), some terrorist somewhere is trying to acquire a WoMD.

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Drug smuggling and thugs go hand in hand.

This is a good bust and pot is the most underrated drug ever.

This is a good thing.

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This is a good thing, but nothing severe. Sava - why do you think there was any resource of authority wasted into this bust? Should the borders simply stop the minimal searches they already have? Is it the criminal processing time of this case that is the waste? (in which case we just let them go, with the pot as well if we're feeling good?)

What exactly are you saying should have been done here, because I'm a little off as to why a few hours time of 3 canine units and an overweight texan with a flashlight are seen as such a gravely misused resource?

Cynically enough, even as the largest pot bust in that border's history - it'll do next to nothing alone in the war on drugs (there are 17 year old runners casually carrying pounds of it around in stuffed backpacks in this country for effs sake)

Fields of it grow south, that was just a small crop. The only one who got f*cked was the poor driver, and a handfull of greasy gang leaders.

Shame if all you can come up with is "LEGALIZE IT, D00D"

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This is ridiculous. The police need to do real work catching real criminals, rather than just harrassing innocent people. In general, the cops need to **** off, and maybe we need to make them.

All in all,

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where is the ****ing hasdh? i need ssome?

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Innocent people smuggling in TEN F*CKING TONS of marijuana. Do you know how much smokeable raw stupidity was packed in that truck?

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i find it ironic we look at the mexican border so closely but ignore the great weed that comes out of BC

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The police need to do real work catching real criminals, rather than just harrassing innocent people.

It's just for personal use officer. Honest!

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**** off zlynka leave this thread tro trationable treasonable poople.


Oh that's a nice one

If you're planning on becoming a drunk or pothead (or already are), I suggest cocaine. It'll help you with your cute little weight problem

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u taokikling to me zlkkia ? i do not have a weight problem. or a drinking problem, i can hit my klo9uth fine thank u.

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Innocent people smuggling in TEN F*CKING TONS of marijuana. Do you know how much smokeable raw stupidity was packed in that truck?


Who cares? And because crime involves coercion, and because there is no coercion involved with the act of transporting, selling, or using drugs, such acts are not criminal in nature. Hence, the people involved are innocent, unless they commit other crimes.

DD,

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It's just for personal use officer.


I don't have a problem with selling drugs, either

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Congratulations and good work by Customs.

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you know ixnay is growing weed by the ton in montana. just look at him! he has that "i grow hemp cause im a rebelious young man" look to him. im gonna tell the FBI

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Drug smuggling and thugs go hand in hand.
This is a good bust and pot is the most underrated drug ever.
This is a good thing.


Thugs smuggle drugs only because you and other prohibitionists have criminalized such actions.

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Ramo you are the guy who said it was fine for McDonald's to sell opium.

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Why wouldn't it be fine?

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I never said it was "fine." But I don't consider it an activity that the state should prohibit.

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Ramo you are the guy who said it was fine for McDonald's to sell opium.


Wow, that sounds Utopian. Maybe we can sell meth in banks as well, just to ease the complications of robbing to feed an addiction that can't physically stop growing before death!

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This just increases the value of BC pot.

pros of pot as a cash crop:

a) absurd markup
b) the BC cops don't care
c) no "countervailing duties" imposed by protectionist US gov't

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Floyd go dig up the archives in the Libertarian posts, the topic has been beaten to death.

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You people need to pay attention to history. Prohibition doesn't stop usage. It simply adds a criminal element to it. If you legalize marijuana, criminals will have less of a way to make money. How many gangsters still make money smuggling alcohol or operating speak-easies?

Sure, we all know drugs are bad... look at Zylka...

But it isn't the governments' place to preach this morality. There is one inherent problem in drug use... addiction. Prohibition simply turns addicts into criminals. By legalizing, you can seperate the thugs from the druggies and help with anti-addiction and rehab programs that could be funded from taxing legal marijuana sales. If you could buy pot at a grocery store or gas station, you wouldn't need to buy it from gang-bangers or drug cartels. I think the goal of law enforcement would be to bankrupt criminals if you can't catch them. And since demand for drugs hasn't gone away, it's only intelligent to legalize.

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Good work by the cops. Ten tons is just a drop in the bucket though. An incredible amount of BC Green gets through from this side of the line despite the increased border vigilance after 9-11.

My fear is that the terrorists will start talking to the drug dealers who seem to get a lot of product through to the US successfully. Who knows what the terrorists could bring in.

As far as the sentiment that BC shouldn't care that pot is now our major cash crop because the Americans won't trade fairly in lumber, I disagree. Pot growers will always attempt to justify essentially unjustifiable actions whether the lumber punitive duties were there or not.

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Sure, we all know drugs are bad... look at Zylka...

But it isn't the governments' place to preach this morality. There is one inherent problem in drug use... addiction. Prohibition simply turns addicts into criminals. By legalizing, you can seperate the thugs from the druggies and help with anti-addiction and rehab programs that could be funded from taxing legal marijuana sales. If you could buy pot at a grocery store or gas station, you wouldn't need to buy it from gang-bangers or drug cartels. I think the goal of law enforcement would be to bankrupt criminals if you can't catch them. And since demand for drugs hasn't gone away, it's only intelligent to legalize.


Here we have one of the biggest problems on side with the "legalize drugs" campaign. On one hand there is myself, who is coping with a (minor enough) cocaine addiction and educated on the ill-effects of any drug you can come up with, on the other - some virgin flake spouting the wonders of free choice because he finally managed to take a hit on someone's joint just before graduating high school. You know just as little of the processes involved in the world of recreational drug use as you do general politics - Does your Grandpa teach you all of your values regarding this, as well?

If you could buy pot at a grocery store or gas station, you wouldn't need to buy it from gang-bangers or drug cartels.

BUYING POT FROM GANG BANGERS AND DRUG CARTELS??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You really don't have too much a clue into the reality of ANYTHING, do you?

Excuse me, Hobbes, Felch and myself are going to smoke a bowl with "GANG BANGERS AND DRUG CARTELS" right now. Glad to have your educated opinion - Get out and live before you post again, ok?

 
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