24-02-2003 07:38									#1
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Let's not panic because there's one negative review of MOO3 okay? There are 3 positive reviews already out. So at worst, you're going to have a game that some people like and some people don't like. Did anyone expect anything different?

The game will be out this week. We'll all have our chance to try it out.

As someone who has been waiting six years for MOO3, there's no review (good or bad) that is going to keep me from trying it out. I don't know about the rest of you but it's a lot like the feeling I got back just before Episode I came out. I'm very excited. But I'm almost not going to panic about reviews.

So let's all try to keep a level head and not get upset about reviews. The game is almost here.

	24-02-2003 07:48									#2
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Who's panicking? Don't mistake a few loud voices for a majority. If some people develop concerns, or even conclude they aren't going to like the game, so what? Why do people feel the need to argue with them, to try to make them "see the light"? Who cares? Just let them be. I don't think starting a new thread to "plead for calm" is all that useful. Attention is like oxygen to the flames. The less attention paid to the heat, the sooner the fires burn out.

- Sirian

	24-02-2003 09:27									#3
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I'm calm. I'm just going to stick to playing Imperium Galactica II until MoOIII hits the bargain bin.

Bkeela.

	24-02-2003 09:29									#4
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Meh...

	24-02-2003 09:31									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Draginol ..but it's a lot like the feeling I got back just before Episode I came out.

You mean Star Wars Episode 1? You`re comparing this to Moo3?

	24-02-2003 09:38									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Bkeela I'm calm. I'm just going to stick to playing Imperium Galactica II until MoOIII hits the bargain bin. Bkeela.

Omigod u poor bastard. IG2 is the best game you can play? I feel for you man. Man if we still had a few months to go before moo3 came out I'd suggest you buy Total War or Civ3 or even Starcraft. But...IG2. Well I guess I have outplayed that. There's no strategy in it. Have the biggest fleet and go kill stuff. If you come across an alien race with more tech or same tech but bigger fleet, pack your bags wars over because your dead.
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	24-02-2003 09:51									#7
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dude there is no way Moo3 can possibly be as bad as Episode 1.

Moo2 was at least an Episode 4, I hope Moo3 is an Episode 5 (we all do).

	24-02-2003 10:01									#8
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quote: Omigod u poor bastard. IG2 is the best game you can play? I feel for you man. Man if we still had a few months to go before moo3 came out I'd suggest you buy Total War or Civ3 or even Starcraft. But...IG2. Well I guess I have outplayed that. There's no strategy in it. Have the biggest fleet and go kill stuff. If you come across an alien race with more tech or same tech but bigger fleet, pack your bags wars over because your dead.

I've just started playing IGII again. It was actually all the reviews of MoOIII that inspired me. When I discovered how limited the tactical battles of MoOIII were, it reminded me how good it was in IGII. IGII has limited replay value, and is pretty bland in research and economy, but it sure looks good. Give me a cross between MoOIII with IGII graphics and SMAC sensibility, I would be happy.

But I'm willing to accept donations to buy Civ III...

Bkeela.

	24-02-2003 22:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Draginol Let's not panic because there's one negative review of MOO3 okay?

It's more schadenfreund, Drag.

Certain people

a) love to start flame wars
b) love to see projects fail

As I said before, I really don't care about negative reviews, because *I* enjoyed MOO3, and am still enjoying it.

	24-02-2003 23:01									#10
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As long as when we start up MOOIII, we don't hear...

"Thisa bea Mastera of Oriona," with a Jar Jar Binks tone...it'll go well. lol

	24-02-2003 23:02									#11
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	24-02-2003 23:14									#12
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I expect a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth for a while, then it will settle down as the naysayers, chaos projectors and trollboys find some other forum to torment.

	24-02-2003 23:24									#13
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Better hope they don't, as that only leaves you fanboys. And how thrilling will a discussion be when everyone agrees?

"This is the bestest game ever."
"True."
*Thread dies*

	24-02-2003 23:36									#14
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Actually, darcy, I was hoping to have the company of fellow thoughtful people with whom I could discuss the various aspects of the game - good and bad. If that makes me a fanboy, so be it...you've decreed it, so you must be the expert on the topic.

	25-02-2003 00:13									#15
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darcy just played his/her hand:

quote: Better hope they don't, as that only leaves you fanboys.

Note - YOU fanboys. Meaning that the Worst Fears thread is bogus. Whose worst fears? Certainly not yours, since you apparently WANT it to fail.

By the way, there will be PLENTY of discussion on strategy, trust me. MOO3 is extremely deep and my review only scratched the surface, because I keep finding new stuff to peruse over.

For example, I'm going after Red planets with magnate civilizations. I've already learned you have to send a large colony ship (either order a Colony Shipx5, or build a new colony ship with more pods) because immediately, people will die and you'll have less than 1,000 colonists. Despite the 4 to 5 population points of the magnate civ on that planet, you don't control anything til you have at least one population point (1,000 colonists).

I hope to find a magnate Ikthul civ - that should be iiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnttttttteeeeeerrrrrrrreeeeeeeeesss
sssssstttttttiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnng.

	25-02-2003 00:28									#16
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Is there only black and white in your world? If I'm not a fanboy, I automatically want the game to fail, yes?

	25-02-2003 00:34									#17
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I read that quarter to three review last night. I don't know why, but I found it to be extremely funny, expecially his portrayal of the player as a button pushing bot. Made me think of old george jetson.

Anyway, I still don't got the game, and neither does just about everyone here, so I don't see waht the big fuss about it is. There's basically two possiblities:

1) Moo3 is great, loads of fun, we all love it, and it causes the instant collapse of our planet as the IG forum implodes into a black hole due to fanboy posts increasing exponentially.

2) Moo3 is a travesty of terrible proportion causing instant collapse of our planet as the IG forum implodes into a black hole due to flame wars.

Either way, there really isn't anything to worry about, right?

	25-02-2003 02:19									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Draginol Let's not panic because there's one negative review of MOO3 okay? There are 3 positive reviews already out. So at worst, you're going to have a game that some people like and some people don't like. Did anyone expect anything different? The game will be out this week. We'll all have our chance to try it out. As someone who has been waiting six years for MOO3, there's no review (good or bad) that is going to keep me from trying it out. I don't know about the rest of you but it's a lot like the feeling I got back just before Episode I came out. I'm very excited. But I'm almost not going to panic about reviews. So let's all try to keep a level head and not get upset about reviews. The game is almost here.

Well said, Brad!

I will buy M003 as soon as possible but the truth is i think Galactic Civilization is the game people have been waiting for. I hope i'll have a multiplayer game of MOO3 with you....just to train myself and getting a high score at the Metaverse.

	25-02-2003 02:42									#19
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Galactic Civilizations and MOO3 are two very very different games. GalCiv is more like Stars!

	25-02-2003 03:19									#20
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Never said that they were the same....and i am glad they aren't. I love space strategy games and this year i am pretty sure to find a least one that i like!

	25-02-2003 03:24									#21
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OMG! OMG! OMG! ::runs around in circles::

I'm ok.

	25-02-2003 05:14									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Demosthenes1234 I feel for you man. Man if we still had a few months to go before moo3 came out I'd suggest you buy Total War or Civ3 or even Starcraft.

Why would you ever wish to inflict Civ3 on someone? What you really must have meant to say was civ2

	25-02-2003 06:10									#23
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Reviews are merely personal opinions and just because a reviewer doesn't like a specific game doesn't mean I won't like it.

	25-02-2003 16:54									#24
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Lets say I am not hanging around forums like this the whole day (ahem, not judging anyone here... ).
Assume I am an ordinary Joe who wants to play a new game. A strategy game. I visit sites that review games and look at the scores, read what the reviewer has to say. That affects my buying decision.

WE (read: MOO worshipers, followers of Orion...) are buying the game anyway. But dont say the reviews dont matter.

	25-02-2003 17:49									#25
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are we calm yet? i hope so...

quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Reviews are merely personal opinions and just because a reviewer doesn't like a specific game doesn't mean I won't like it.

one reviewer = one man = one opinion

	25-02-2003 18:51									#26
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Pardon my Neanderthal,

Bad review no right, reviewer who do bad review very dumb.

MOO be good, be very good. Me want it so, must be so.

Say MOO bad, must be dumb, very dumb.

Me spend money, no worry if game suck.

If spend money game must not suck.

The logic of the zealot.

	25-02-2003 18:58									#27
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btw Ghostbear, that goes for ALL reviews.....

	26-02-2003 00:40									#28
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* H Tower wonders if Ghostbear has a brain condition which keeps him from speaking english coherently

	26-02-2003 02:14									#29
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I always did wonder about those that claim reviewers are morons when they give their games a bad scores. Can't reasonable people disagree on games? Can it not be so that some people may think that Moo3 might suck (or rule)?

	26-02-2003 04:57									#30
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Its called mistrust.

I'm not really familiar with the IG beta program, but from trying to look through the IG boards, it appears "spring loaded" to the "love it" position.

And now this "simultaneous release" strikes me as a blatant attempt to capture the "buy it without thinking" crowd before any SERIOUS discussion of the game by real gamers can occur.

So, the more everyone bashes the bad reviews (which keep coming in), the more I have to put my credit card back in my pocket.

Just for the record, I love complex games. I am a big fan of SEIV, and most people know how complex that is.