24-02-2003 07:43									#1
	Task forces Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

This is another real fun part of the game, by the way... you have to have the right balance of long attack, short attack, point defense and other types of ships to successfully assault a planet. It's so fun having to design your force.

Even more fun is designing your ground assault task force. Not only do you have to have the right balance of ships (often, you'll want escort ships for the troop ships), but also designing the right ground assault forces, since you have support units like Psy Ops and Magazines who influence the ground combat.

Trust me - this is one area the game can't "play for you".

	24-02-2003 07:56									#2
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Ya thanks. We know already.

Please stop trying to desperately defend the game. We know you like it. We know you don't like Tom Chick's review of it.

Your not that important, get over it.

	24-02-2003 08:03									#3
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Well I for one appreciate these tidbits Jonah. Anything I can learn now is something i won't have to learn 3 days from now.

	24-02-2003 08:05									#4
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Yes, drsparnum - unlike certain people, you admit that since you don't own the game, you are still curious about various aspects of the game. It's called "not having a massive ego."

	24-02-2003 08:22									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

JonahFalcon, I respectfully request more... More... MORE!!

	24-02-2003 08:30									#6
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I think this is good news too. For me there were 3 really fun parts of MOO2. Trading (even with its problems), designing ships, and espionage.

The reviews seem to indicate that trading is better and espionage is even more effective so this was good news to me. However, no one seems to have really liked ship design. I was thinking, well 2/3 ain't bad (unintentional Meatloaf quote).

Hopefully now, the fun of ship design has been replaced by the fun of task force design.

	24-02-2003 08:37									#7
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It isn't ship design - it's what you DO with the ships after you've built them.

	24-02-2003 09:32									#8
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I actually prefered designing the ships to the fights myself. Maybe I am weird.

(However I realize the irony that if I knew I would never use the ships in combat then designing them would be pointless so don't bother pointing that out.)

	24-02-2003 18:23									#9
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I also like the updates, feeds my growing moo hunger
can u tell me a little more about ground combat

can u see your units fighting?
do u fight a big battle for the whole planet or do u fight for sectors
and is there air support?

if this has all been answered b4 i apologise and can point me in the right direction =)

thanks

Last edited by Lo Rez on 25-02-2003 at 12:42

	24-02-2003 19:16									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by JonahFalcon Yes, drsparnum - unlike certain people, you admit that since you don't own the game, you are still curious about various aspects of the game. It's called "not having a massive ego."

I don't think someone needs to "have a massive ego" to take exception to your behavior in response to the negative review in question.

Nonetheless, I do very much appreciate the information you are providing on the game, thank you

	24-02-2003 21:54									#11
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quote: Originally posted by JonahFalcon Yes, drsparnum - unlike certain people, you admit that since you don't own the game, you are still curious about various aspects of the game. It's called "not having a massive ego."

Actually its called being overzealous in defending the game from one single review.

	24-02-2003 21:54									#12
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Once I knew my ships could kick butt designing even better ones was pretty pointless but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. The only question makr I have over it in MoO3 is that without the gadgets its just a case of shoving in the maximum quantity of the weapons suited to its role. Thats no fun since there is no trade offs to be made between raw firepower and special tricks.

	25-02-2003 00:20									#13
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No. There is a certain amount of rock/paper/scissors in the game. In certain circumstances, if you have, say, a large fleet with only particle beams, you'll be defeated by a smaller fleet if they have a huge amount of Shield defense. You need mass drivers (which ignore Shield) and other sorts of weapons.

Plus, you need a variety of Long Range Attack ships (to soften up defenses), Short Range Attack ships (which can protect the Long Rang and come in close to ships to damage them), Point Defense, Indirect Fire (missile ships), and so forth.

I love the tiny Interceptors, by the way. It's fun to see little tiny ships harrassing the enemy.

	25-02-2003 04:04									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I for one appreciate your many updates Jonah. Thanks buddy!

	25-02-2003 04:41									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Corentor Ya thanks. We know already. Please stop trying to desperately defend the game. We know you like it. We know you don't like Tom Chick's review of it. Your not that important, get over it.

Hey! Shut up.

	25-02-2003 07:17									#16
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I like the updates, Jonah. I feel like I'm getting a leg up on reading the manual, which helps because I'm going to be on the road until Saturday and therefore unable to purchase the game.

	25-02-2003 07:40									#17
	yay Remove this text

finally, someone with half a brain that actually has the game is making sense of it... sounds quite interesting.

	25-02-2003 12:47									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Corentor Actually its called being overzealous in defending the game from one single review.

i don't agree, i read the review and was quite worried that the game had missed out the fun part

Johans updates/extra tidbits of info have helped to reasure me to keep my preorder

so the updates have been of use IMO