24-02-2003 11:39									#1
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It seems basically decided that we will move onto the tile below (see screenshot)

Will we settle there or will we explore the river more?

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	24-02-2003 11:41									#2
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I vote yes...

	24-02-2003 12:00									#3
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We should settle next turn.

Let's have a screenshot Frozzy as the settler CAN move one tile more this turn.

	24-02-2003 12:15									#4
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Yes, yes, well, public opinion is that we move. It is done...

	24-02-2003 12:23									#5
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Well... I move 0.5 movement points and...

More forest.

I suggest we either move another tile along the river (east, naturally) or settle next turn.

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	24-02-2003 17:30									#6
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Go east one tick and settle next turn.

	24-02-2003 17:42									#7
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Yes go east
ps in this version can we mine forest or is that med mod.

	24-02-2003 22:25									#8
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In my mind it doesn't do any difference if we settle here, one tile East, one tile South-East, or one tile South-West, everywhere same tile types available: Forest only. And everywhere we get the same number of river tiles, in particular 6 river tiles, so the only advantage of moving is discovering a good.

Quickbeam3, we only added to the standart game the awesome AIPs, so everything we can do in the standart game we can do here, too.

-Martin

	25-02-2003 00:31									#9
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My vote -- one more tile east, then settle in 3950 B.C. (i.e. next turn).

	25-02-2003 00:58									#10
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quinns has the idea, the 0.5 move point should be used to check for goods(like Beaver commonly found in forests). one move east and end turn, on turn 2 settle.

	25-02-2003 02:34									#11
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I have aa Idea, We should hold a turn chat for this disscussion, it would certainly move alot faster.

maybe on 26th at 21:00 GMT (just a suggestion)

	25-02-2003 04:17									#12
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Martin Gühmann why do you assume everywhere is forest. One more tile may get us close enough to a sea coast or hills or mountains. It may just be forest but it wont go on forever and one more turn wont hurt us too much.

	25-02-2003 04:26									#13
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Move south east, sorry had to be slightly different

	25-02-2003 08:20									#14
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I'll move east now.

	25-02-2003 08:29									#15
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Beaverz!!!

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	25-02-2003 08:35									#16
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Miggio, what? A turnchat is pointless. The second we settle a city (next turn hopefully) we have to stop and create a poll on what to build, what to research, where to explore, etc. etc. etc.

I will not organise a turnchat now(which is my responsibility, not yours).

Quinns, could we have a poll on what to build, and Nimrod, what to research...

	25-02-2003 10:52									#17
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BEAVER!!

Not only is it a beaver, but it's a beaver on a RIVER!!!(I think, it's difficult to tell from the screenie)

	25-02-2003 11:17									#18
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Yep... it's on a river alright.

I see

	25-02-2003 16:10									#19
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This game is pretty much over, we've got em no problem!! Beaver on a river. Those AAIP's are just to dumb to quit it.

	25-02-2003 16:12									#20
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Mmm. Nothing like plenty of beaver in a city! Settle!

	25-02-2003 18:23									#21
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate This game is pretty much over, we've got em no problem!! Beaver on a river. Those AAIP's are just to dumb to quit it.

On behalf of the improved dump AI - I surrender already .

Anyway, the map was against the AI from the start - the humans (HI) must have cheaten and the judges are all bribed .

Set and game to the HI.

Lets start a new game

	25-02-2003 19:21									#22
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Actualy we would have got that beaver if we had settled first time around. Cant we just move north east 1 more time cause we wont lose the beaver and we will only lose 2 unknown squares. but gain a lot more unknown squares mayhave even more rescourses.

	25-02-2003 20:18									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Quickbeam3 Martin Gühmann why do you assume everywhere is forest. One more tile may get us close enough to a sea coast or hills or mountains. It may just be forest but it wont go on forever and one more turn wont hurt us too much.

Well afterwards I looked on the values of our game then there is actual no reason for it except the screenie. Only the continentality can explain the huge number of forrest tiles on one spot. But if I remember correctly then I saw something like this already in one game only the coast was nearer, but we are also very far South of the map, a region for forests but I am not quite sure how CTP1 maps works in this respect.

Well that we don't have any dry or icy land on the South-West or South-East can be seen by a look on the tile borders and I don't see there any dry or icy or beach like terrain as possible neighbor tile.

-Martin

	26-02-2003 00:28									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy Miggio, what? A turnchat is pointless. The second we settle a city (next turn hopefully) we have to stop and create a poll on what to build, what to research, where to explore, etc. etc. etc. I will not organise a turnchat now(which is my responsibility, not yours). Quinns, could we have a poll on what to build, and Nimrod, what to research...

Frozzy -- I don't have control of what to build, Nimrod does. I only control what to do with the military units once built (right?). I will post a poll once we build a Warrior!

	26-02-2003 00:45									#25
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Settle now

	26-02-2003 04:48									#26
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Frozzy calm down its just a suggestion!


im pretty sure that the MoDA gets to decide what we build, he doesnt have to poll anything if he doesnt want too.


PS: im getting the distinct impression that you dont like me

	26-02-2003 08:09									#27
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Sorry Quinns, foolish me

	02-03-2003 06:17									#28
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Settle