26-02-2003 04:04									#1
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I decided to test what affects city tile shield production, to figure out why some city centers produce more shields than others. Here's what I found.

Shields from unimproved terrain
+Shields from bonus resources
+1 if city size >= 7
+1 if industrious and size >= 7
+1 if city size >= 13
+1 if shields==0 so far
+1 if in golden age/mobilization

The interesting part is you only get the 0-shield-terrain bonus if the city is size 6 or less. Building on shielded grassland is not any worse than building on regular grassland after you reach size 7!

	26-02-2003 04:14									#2
	Re: Formula for city tile shields Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

quote: Originally posted by DaveMcW +1 if industrious and size >= 7

I only get this in size >= 13.
That's in PTW 1.14f. I heard a rumour that this is new in PTW though.

	26-02-2003 18:40									#3
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I thought it was both +1 in > 6 and +1 > 12 for Industrious. That's what the Industrious trait makes it sound like...


Dominae

	26-02-2003 19:11									#4
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The Industrious bonus was pushed back to Metros in PTW.

	27-02-2003 03:36									#5
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So Dave, I'm being lazy here...with this information what is the best terrain to found a city on according to shields?

	27-02-2003 08:50									#6
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I believe founding a city on a hill with coal would give your best city-tile shields, especially if you're industrious and it grows into a metro.

But, it's often a crapshoot, as most of us are long done building once we find coal, heh. Though I've been known to dismantle cities and build a new iron works town, heh.

	27-02-2003 17:43									#7
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Is there any rule for the food in the city tile? Or the city gets 2 Food always from the tile, where the city itself is?

I made a few tests. If there is a food-bonus (Cattle or Wheat) on the tile, the city doesn't benefits from that. It still shows only 2 food on that tile.

Please help! Thanx

-- cumi --

	27-02-2003 21:54									#8
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Bluefrog,

yeah, hills with coal, but take out all resources excluding luxuries (since we usually don't get to see them till after REXing) and what are we left with? hills? grasslands + shield?

	27-02-2003 21:55									#9
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Cumi,

food on the city tile is always 2 unless in a golden age (I think).

	28-02-2003 01:31									#10
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quote: Originally posted by badams52 unless in a golden age (I think).

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Does anyone know what the Palace commerce bonus is (or whether it exists)? I've seen 0-3 and odd things like the tiles in the city window showing different commerce than the total below (without other improvements obviously).

	06-03-2003 14:51									#11
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What's about the french in PTW?