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Zylka is offline Zylka
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Recommended randomly by at least 3 different people, and warned that the ending is a complete shocker

I must say this film left me empty... it definitely didn't feel like watching a movie; just a terrifying and non committed stream of consciousness that leaves one cringing and confused. No serious development for emotional attachment to characters, and background info is vague at best. It just seems a tease that brings you early expectations and then spirals out of control randomly to scare the viewer. After the first half an hour and with the aforementioned warnings in mind, I expected a Vanilla Sky type shocker... something layered which makes you shout "Ohhh, that's why that happened"

Now the tone of my thoughts seem quite critical, but this was a great movie... just, plain f*cked up - you know? Simply enough - the film is a well done metaphor for perception maintenance

Please share any intrinsic or messed up things that you noticed from the movie... I'm off to watch it again now and find my own (if there are any)

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For me, the film is all about escapism, and the different ways in which we encounter it.

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One of the few anti-drug movies that that don't end up being pro-drugs.

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Well Mono that's pretty much the way the director put it, in a nutshell

Very well done movie on second glance... although the characters still feel alien, which is ironic in all the emphasis the director puts on his happiness with their robust descriptions

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That movie is not something to watch while tripping. Although it did make me happy I wasn't using heroin at the time.

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"Well Mono that's pretty much the way the director put it, in a nutshell"
All bow down at my mad analytical skillz...

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I thought it was cocaine

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Is THAT what that white powder was???

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The issue here is whether or not it's that or smack, smartass

Most reviews see it as heroin and that bugs me for some reason

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Dude, that was a cross-post. I thought you said that it was cocaine people should bow down to, not my mad analytical skillz.

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haha ok

well check out this piece of an article I found:

"Aronofsky has a knack for stylistic overkill, and his hammering onslaught is undeniably riveting, at first anyway. But it gradually becomes brutalizing and counterproductive; he's not especially good with actors, and he resolutely fails to find the core of humanity that would make his four characters sympathetic or even remotely interesting."

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That person thinks he's found a clotheless emperor when in reality the emperor is sporting styling duds. That's my opinion anyway, and mine's just as good as his.

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How about shut up?

(Know where I can get some brown sugar?)

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uuuuuuh I don't, sorry

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They seemed really mellowed by it. I confess I've never been introduced to the heroin scene, but its effects should be similar to perscription painkillers. In my experience cocaine tends to make people excitable, while painkillers are the sit down, shut up, and be chill drugs.

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Ass to ass, baby.

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I think that should be the funeral rites for you.

"Dust to dust, ass to ass baby."

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I liked the movie alot..
what people will do to satisfy addictions. I liked the Cinematography

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I agree the effects lead one to believe it was heroin, but one major (yet petty) complaint - Your eyes do not dilate when using heroin, they turn into little pinpricks. Trivial, but since the biggest visual cue of the movie was based on it, I'd hope they'd at least have it right

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i loved the reference to it in simpsons 302 (301?) with the ribwich.

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Great movie. I was getting nauseaus at the end of it. That guys arm did bother me! I was yelling 'go see a doctor NOW!' all the time.

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I think that should be the funeral rites for you.


That would put a smile on the face of my poor damned soul.

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I agree the effects lead one to believe it was heroin, but one major (yet petty) complaint - Your eyes do not dilate when using heroin, they turn into little pinpricks. Trivial, but since the biggest visual cue of the movie was based on it, I'd hope they'd at least have it right


Yeah, given that clue I'd prolly revise my guess of what it was to "undetermined".

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I like tragedies. No one got a happy ending!

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