26-02-2003 21:12									#1
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From Darekill;

quote: So, our Contract is discussed in our Forum. We have a poll. We'll let you soon know how it ends. Did you see some luxians. Is there any settler or city to be seen? where have they gone?

Unfortunately he sent me the save GS sent to him so I emailed him back:

quote: I got the Gathering Storm save again. They are offering to trade us Code of Laws or Philosophy (I forget which) for Mapmaking. We will give it to you when they give it to us. I have heard some comments and speculation that Lux may have given their Treasury to Vox for a city of theirs thus they would now be on a different continent from us.

And he replied:

quote: **** **** ****, why do i not look at what i am sending? Maybe i should give you our password so you can do my work? I hope it does not happen again. If lux is on another continent it doesn't matter anymore. I'm sure they make new "friends" pretty soon. GS offered us The Code of Law for anything. Spain is offering Literature for an unknown cost. I hope to give spain the code for Lit. and GS Lit for the Code. We'd give you what we get of course.

	27-02-2003 05:33									#2
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Lux will disband that Worker.

Shall we offer to buy it from them ?
5-10 gold ?....Peace maybe ?

We will have to send the message by pigeon as we have no idea where they are hiding

	28-02-2003 00:20									#3
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2 galleys at this stage seems the right size for exploration & settlement. I recommend we don't build more until the situation changes.

Hot Enamel, with you're avatar, I'd swear you were from the United States.

	28-02-2003 01:37									#4
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I talked with Trip about trading worker for 10 gold. He said he would ask his team, but they probably would say no.

	28-02-2003 04:02									#5
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We could always use the northern galley to haul two Horsemen to the Vox/GS continent to look for the lost city of Lux.

	28-02-2003 05:28									#6
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Has it been confirmed that they bought a city from that continent ?

If so, is it really worth it hunting thm down ?

I assume they got a city off Vox rather than GS, as they have had a longer relationship with Vox.
If they have gone to Vox, then they would of sold their souls to them. This essentially means, that Vox will be running as 1 team with 2 civs, for quite some time.

Thats very dangerous....although GS would have to be worried more than anyone else. We should contact them & Vox for clarification. Ask both teams straight up.

Lux (and therefore Vox) will be out for revenge....so this is a good reason to take them out.


On the other hand, if we take the final Lux city...Vox could see this as an attack on them. Obviously they have invested at least 1 settler..and would not like losing it to us or ND. Perhaps its better to to let sleeping dogs lay, and concentrate on securing our own continent.
The last thing we want is an angry Vox while we are conducting a southern military campaign against RP.

My recommendation is, that we declare peace ASAP.
No terms, just offer up peace on the next round.
If they accept, we can build an Embassy in Lux, and find exactly where they are. ND can pay us half of the cost for the Embassy, as we will share the info with them.

Once we have this information, and get an understanding of the politics on the VOX / GS continent, we can decide what to do. Perhaps we can convice GS to take out Lux. Surely Lux & Vox are in league and GS must remove 1 ASAP.
If we have GS on board, then it would be a lot safer for our horsemen.


The same arguement could be given to Vox, if it is GS who sold them the city.

Regs

	28-02-2003 05:34									#7
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quote: My recommendation is, that we declare peace ASAP. No terms, just offer up peace on the next round. If they accept, we can build an Embassy in Lux, and find exactly where they are. ND can pay us half of the cost for the Embassy, as we will share the info with them.

Good plan, H_E!

	28-02-2003 05:37									#8
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I don't agree to declaring peace unless ND is also onboard. We agreed to fight Lux with ND and to declare peace without finding out their postion could put us in a position of distrust with them.

	28-02-2003 06:00									#9
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IF we do this, we obviously need ND to agree.

I suggest peace with no conditions...ie we could start the war up again next round.

Dont highlight this to Lux, just put peace on the table. If they assume it has to last for 20 rounds, then that is an error they will make.

And ND can pay us half to set up the embassy.

This is assuming that they HAVE a city.
They could just have a settler hiding somewhere. Probably heading south to RP, or to the far east where we havent looked yet.

Regs

	28-02-2003 07:03									#10
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Someone please mail ND and give this proposal to them - I can't acess email at the moment.

	28-02-2003 08:48									#11
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Hot_Enamel, your avatar rocks!

It's completely off topic, I know... Sorry!

	28-02-2003 09:09									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Aro Hot_Enamel, your avatar rocks! It's completely off topic, I know... Sorry!

Thanks Aro..

It's only temporary....

	01-03-2003 03:20									#13
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If they did sell the city to Vox, maybe we should declare war on them next. If Vox's capital is far off, they'll be easy pickings. RP is so far South, we may be better off developing our cities now, to minimize corruption.

quote: Originally posted by Panzer32 I talked with Trip about trading worker for 10 gold. He said he would ask his team, but they probably would say no.

I think a worker for 30 gold is still a good deal at this point, I think we should go higher.

	01-03-2003 13:11									#14
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Lux will disband the worker and get nothing.

Its up to Lux if they want to salvage anything. 10g or nothing.

I know GF was chatting to BFM before he left. He may of convinced Lux of the deal, but we will have to resell the worker back.

	05-03-2003 02:21									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel If so, is it really worth it hunting thm down ?

Agreed. The victory will go to the best civ. We don't gain anything by annihailating a weak civ. They don't stand a chance and are taking up space on someone else's continent. There are lots better choices we can make.

We are in a dangerous situation here if we fight RP, with ND, we'll have a bigger corruption problem than ND. we certainly can't afford to waste shields in a vendetta.

As for 10g or nothing, I'd rather pay more and get something.