26-02-2003 23:59									#1
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I accidentally posted a thread with poll about revisions to the deal with Vox and Lux to the strategy forum instead of here. I caught it almost immediately and I don't think anyone had a chance to see the text of the deal itself, but the fact that something's going on will be hard to miss if anyone from here looks at the strategy forum before MarkG takes the thread down. (I PMed him asking him to.) Sorry about the mess.

Nathan

	27-02-2003 00:10									#2
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No need to respond to my PM re: getting that deleted, then.

I dunno about anyone from other teams, but clearly I noticed it. Then again, I'm always checking in on that forum.

You caught it quickly & dealt with it. Hopefully no one else saw it.

-Arrian

	27-02-2003 00:22									#3
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Mark doesn't seem to be on, so I PM'ed Ming.
(don't know if he will act on it, since it is your thread.)

What is done is done. Shiber did the same thing.
Accidents will hapen.

	27-02-2003 00:28									#4
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Yeah, I know how it feels Nathan. Don't feel bad about it, it's just a silly accident.

	27-02-2003 00:35									#5
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Just got a PM from Ming, thread is gone.

I kept an eye on it, it was only opened by 15 people.

	27-02-2003 00:37									#6
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The question is, were any of them the wrong 15 people.

Thanks for PMing Ming about it, Alva. (I suspect that the "Oops, wrong place" took care of any concerns Ming might have had about your asking to have someone else's thread removed. )

	27-02-2003 00:43									#7
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Well, if in the hour orso all the ambassadors PM boxes fill up, we'll have our answer...

Let's say 7 or 8 non gs members looked at it.
Let's hope Catt opened it 7 times

	27-02-2003 00:45									#8
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Shiber, could you do some monitoring in the chatroom regarding this incident? Might tell us something.

	27-02-2003 00:53									#9
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Good idea!
But... I can't. Not right now. RL calls, you see...
Can anyone else take my place? LoA perhaps, he's been helping me monitor the channels. Could anyone PM him please, I have to leave now.

I'm sorry I have to take off at such an important time... but these circumstances are beyond my control.

	27-02-2003 03:27									#10
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Do you think we should send an apology to Vox and Lux about this?

	27-02-2003 03:40									#11
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FP- Let's wait with the damage control until we know the real damage done, or at least get some insight on it. More than an apology, we should warn them that people may know...

What i don't like, is not that someone will know Lux is here, that will happen pretty soon, but that we will be stained as hosts of a "wanted" team...

Hope these are not the "wrong" 15...

	27-02-2003 03:45									#12
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The poll options (as posted here) don't give anything away, and I'm assuming that nathan edited out all the text from his first post as soon as he could. Of course, anyone who reads that will know that we are in negotiations with Lux.

	27-02-2003 05:29									#13
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Could anyone tell me the title of this thread? I didn't notice it in time.

Plus, let's hold a counter vote: everyone who accessed the thread simply say how many times they did (if they still remember, of course), I can imagine Nathan already being 2 or 3 of those 15, and it seems quite a few others viewed it as well... maybe we won't know exactly how many other people saw it, but if it was only available to 1 or 2 other people, I don't mind.

At any rate, mistakes happen. As long as they don't become a habbit, we simply need to deal with them, it won't be the last time someting went wrong.

DeepO

	27-02-2003 06:06									#14
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Just about everything about my misplaced post was essentially identical to the message and poll I posted here. I got rid of the text within a minute or so after I posted, and my impression from the post count was that probably, no one read it in the meantime. What was left could tell readers that we were working on some kind of deal with Vox and Lux, but not the nature of the deal.

	27-02-2003 06:10									#15
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were you able to edit the title of the thread as well? if so, this might went by unnoticed... if not, others could have gotten a hint.

I still think that it would be good to do a count... even if the view counter doesn't always work with 'poly being so laggy lately

DeepO

	27-02-2003 07:00									#16
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I don't think editing titles is possible, unfortunately.

	27-02-2003 12:35									#17
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It is possible to edit titles.

If you choose to edit the first post in your thread no more than 5 minutes after you posted it then the title will appear in the same place the 'post title' usually appears. If you edit this text then the title of the thread will change.

	27-02-2003 16:48									#18
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Mhh.. that's unfortunate. I suggest that from now on, we anticipate that at least one team has some idea of us establishing a deal with Vox and Lux. Working from this worst case scenario should mimimize our losses

DeepO

	27-02-2003 21:22									#19
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DeepO,

Re: the count.

I opened it, after Nathan had removed the text (poll options & title still there... showing we were negotiating with Vox & Lux, which is the issue) and then posted a "Doh!" and left.

Is that 1 view for the initial view, and another for being taken to my post after submitting it, making a total of 2?

-Arrian

	27-02-2003 21:27									#20
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Yeah, I think so. If you go to your post, it updates the counter as well, so that would already be 2 views.

DeepO

	27-02-2003 21:28									#21
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Yeah, that's 2 views.

Although bumping it by posting there might not have been the best plan.

	27-02-2003 21:52									#22
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It wasn't gonna drop very fast, FP. There were about 4 threads in the strat forum that anyone was posting in.

Strat forum has been sluggish lately.

-Arrian

	27-02-2003 22:11									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Strat forum has been sluggish lately.

That's because you're all here.

Seriously, though, the MP demogames are the cutting-edge of Civ strategy these days.