27-02-2003 03:49									#1
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Olá compadre! As always, the situation changes.
Again it's time to discuss some long term strategies to enhance our power in this world.
What do you think we ought to do now?


Previous reports to comparison:
(from a spanish survey, quite some turns ago)

1. Moderate expansion: Balance military, settler, worker prod. = 31.25%
2. I am scared! We need a much stronger military now. = 0.0%
3. I want land, do expand! Build settler+spearman combo. = 50.00%
4. Infrasructure now! Build more workers. = 18.75%
5. Cultural influence now! Build a wonder and some city improvements. = 0.0%

Last edited by ThePlagueRat on 27-02-2003 at 04:38

	27-02-2003 12:29									#2
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I fully and unconditionally support whatever the grand despot wants as I have become somewhat sentimentally attached to my head.

	27-02-2003 15:26									#3
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Let our culture come a little later. First we must have the weapons to defend it, also we need a larger production base than our enemies = more cities.

I'm afraid that we'll have to down-prioritize culture at the moment, but only until we have a proper defence.

	27-02-2003 15:36									#4
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Which is the difference between moderate expansion and moderate military?

	27-02-2003 15:41									#5
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The latter includes culture rather than settlers.

	27-02-2003 17:39									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Thrumble I fully and unconditionally support whatever the grand despot wants as I have become somewhat sentimentally attached to my head.

I warmly encourage all nobles to follow the example set by Thrumble.

	27-02-2003 17:42									#7
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Hardcore military : why does it include only defensive units ?

	27-02-2003 19:06									#8
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Don't care as long as it gets done, though I prefer military tactics to toppling cities with abstract concepts like culture

	27-02-2003 23:01									#9
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KILL KILL KILL

(does that make my sentiments clear - lots of warriors, to be upgraded. Drop science to 10% - a force of 15 swords marching through the jungle to the north is what I want to see).

	28-02-2003 00:17									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT Hardcore military : why does it include only defensive units ?

Sorry, It's a flaw. We can in fact build horsemen now.
It's just that I presume we built defensive units now,
until Madrid is capable of building the more nasty ones.
I know... That's not neccesarily the only option.

	02-03-2003 09:59									#11
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HARDCORE MILITARY!

What? The wusses wussing out and picking Moderate Expansion?

Guess what? We're surrounded by 3--well, 2--threats and we need to beat their ***es back to the North, because we could use this great southern plain, and by the gods we will.

"Oh, but we can go moderate and still push them back."

Yeah? We can really go moderate if we know for sure of 5 swords running around from the Neubie threat and another whole nation of unknown, with the most specific information that we are close to equal to them? Can we still go moderate? The Luxians have been on the magic mushrooms, but without them they'd probably still just wet their pants and raze all thier land in front of this challenge.

We must rally the warriors to battle!

	03-03-2003 15:17									#12
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I voted hardcore military. Let us first properly defend what we have before we start expanding. It costs us valuable time to build settlers while our military stays at a low level. I think that we should not prepare for war at this stage. I voted for this option with the idea of a short break in our expansion policy to get the military enlarged and updated and then continue the moderate expansion policy.

Aidun Cian,
back from his voyage to the land of Borc.

	03-03-2003 16:20									#13
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Allright Aidun, but I don't think I can agree 100%.
What do you think of building one more settler prior to the hardcore military buildup? This is with the intention of building a city by the iron deposit. To have a serious attack force we need the iron. It would be quicker to build a colony, but IMO colonies are sort of wasted. In the longterm it's better to have one more city and the iron. So what is it gonna be?

	05-03-2003 07:09									#14
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I would like to take the distinguishment of being the only one yet to vote for rapid expansion. I don't think we have to worry about ND for now, I would just like to expand so we can out-produce 'em in the war that will eventually come. Of course, moderate expansion does it for me too.

	05-03-2003 16:33									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ThePlagueRat Allright Aidun, but I don't think I can agree 100%. What do you think of building one more settler prior to the hardcore military buildup? This is with the intention of building a city by the iron deposit. To have a serious attack force we need the iron. It would be quicker to build a colony, but IMO colonies are sort of wasted. In the longterm it's better to have one more city and the iron. So what is it gonna be?

One more settler is ok. Agreed, but let us then concentrate on military.

Aidun

	06-03-2003 19:40									#16
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Fine.
I don't remember how the Pamplona governor's plan was.
Any plan must be revisable, I guess...

So shouldn't we let him know, or the dictator?

	07-03-2003 10:23									#17
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Someone should do an article about how Spain intends to win the game through superior use of SEX