27-02-2003 08:53									#1
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Man I was hoping this one would win. I LOVE the big tower on the left, it looks amazing.

Well done!

(Hope this topic hasn't been posted already).

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeas...t.ap/index.html

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	27-02-2003 08:54									#2
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My first thoughts:

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	27-02-2003 08:56									#3
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Yeah I guess it does look that kinda huh...

	27-02-2003 08:56									#4
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This is great! Do we know when construction is set to begin?

	27-02-2003 08:57									#5
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Did the New Yorkers or Americans have their say at any moment in the matter ?

	27-02-2003 08:58									#6
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I don't think the commercial developers have chosen anything yet

In any case, dissapointing. Not as bad as the runner up - but quite randomly mediocre and lacking of presence

	27-02-2003 08:59									#7
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Not sure yet, I guess the big announcement is tomorrow, hopefully they will tell us.

I really liked this one, the lower level is awesome too.

	27-02-2003 09:01									#8
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Spiffor,

I think the redevelopment board included representatives like family members of the victims, etc.

Z,

Actually I thought that helix one was too trippy and unconventional.

	27-02-2003 09:03									#9
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thx for the info

	27-02-2003 09:05									#10
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The helix one was a terrible joke, without any capacity for business floors even

As for this, there is no construction planned. All this represents is a municpal committee decision. Reality and the real developers will hopefully bring it crashing

	27-02-2003 09:50									#11
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Would you like to rephrase that?

	27-02-2003 09:53									#12
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Reality and the real developers will hopefully bring it tumbling in a chalky cloud of terror, much like a medium sized passeneger jet full of enough fuel to feed a fire which bends its structural integrity beyond sustainability

	27-02-2003 09:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka In any case, dissapointing. Not as bad as the runner up - but quite randomly mediocre and lacking of presence

I agree with Zylka.

Must be another first.

	27-02-2003 10:00									#14
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Well I think the tall tower has a very striking presence.

	27-02-2003 10:01									#15
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Noooo!

It's the ugly one! I wanted the two big huge pretty towers.

	27-02-2003 10:03									#16
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it's ok i guess. i'd prefer something bigger, and taller ala that frank lloyd wright design(the mile high or something).

	27-02-2003 10:07									#17
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I don't like it.

	27-02-2003 10:08									#18
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If you're going to build a phallic object, give it girth!

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Asher, can I use that as new sig material?

	27-02-2003 10:16									#20
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Be my guest.

	27-02-2003 10:23									#21
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I like it! Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. I prefer more conventional, classic ziggurat-style skyscrapers, but if you're going to make it modern, then this is pretty damn decent, in my opinion.

	27-02-2003 10:26									#22
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Yeah I mean it fits in well with the skyline, it adds something to it where the old towers were kinda just big ugly boxes.

	27-02-2003 10:29									#23
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Glass curtain is so passe. They really should do something unique - anybody can rig up several large boxes with glass curtains. In fact, there are lots of those around here.

	27-02-2003 10:31									#24
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the mile high or illinois. they should build that instead.

	27-02-2003 10:36									#25
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No! It was designed for Chicago, not New York. I'm sorry, but I was born in Chicago and it has always bothered me when people suggest that THE Illinois should be built anywhere other THAN Illinois. New York should get it's own design, not someone else's IMO.

	27-02-2003 10:41									#26
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It's simply a lackluster design for a site of monumental importance. I would embrace a project like this in any convential large city and note it as a success... but in terms of replacing the WTC, it falls more than short

Although I'm not too fond of Ghery, he seemed to put it well in saying that all of the worlds top monuments should be easily recognizable from a 10 second (max) free hand drawing. Here we have the ever elusive horizon fallback sized towers in a vain impression of quartz growth, which has absolutely nothing to do with anything at all (but perhaps wowing citizens with full glass facades, much like raccoons who have stumbled upon a piece of tinfoil). BUT - then we see that the architect(s) have made things all better by erecting a pathetic and finacially non committal "world's tallest" sewing needle, sporadically dotted with gardens in attempting to answer and deny the organic structure fad

Who designed this anyway, Daniel L?

	27-02-2003 10:41									#27
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That looks like Barad-Dur...

	27-02-2003 10:43									#28
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Well, I too was hoping for a Wonder of the World type of impact, but this one was the cream of the crop compared to the rest.

And light years ahead of round 1. Those were such flops.

	27-02-2003 10:47									#29
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs No! It was designed for Chicago, not New York. I'm sorry, but I was born in Chicago and it has always bothered me when people suggest that THE Illinois should be built anywhere other THAN Illinois. New York should get it's own design, not someone else's IMO.

i agree new york should have their own design but all their designs haven't been nearly as good as the mile high imo. would you rather have the mile high built somewhere else(eg new york) or never?

	27-02-2003 10:54									#30
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I'll vote "never"

Seriously, the old Illinois would never be built anyway since it was designed at a time when the building codes were different from now. FLW envisioned it being built of concrete. Yeah, it would never be built as designed, so they'd have to change the design somewhat. Then it would cease being the Illinois and lose its intended character. The designs they've done thus far for WTCII all pretty much suck, but at least some don't suck as much as others. If they DARE build that God awful STUPID lattice thing, I'll drop out of architecture and become a celebate monk!