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Eli is offline Eli
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REPORT: SAUDIS TRANSFER $500M TO AL QAIDA

WASHINGTON -- Saudi Arabia is said to have transferred $500 million to Al Qaida over the past decade.

A report submitted to the United Nations asserts that the Saudi funds represent the most important source of financing for Al Qaida. The study said Riyad, pressured by leading officials, has failed to stop the flow of money to Al Qaida in wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 suicide attacks on New York and Washington.

"One must question the real ability and willingness of the kingdom to exercise any control over the use of religious money in and outside of the country," the report said.

The 34-page report was written by a French investigator at the request of Colombia, which occupies the presidency of the Security Council. Jean- Charles Brisard, the investigator, has long studied the issue of Saudi financing of Islamic insurgency groups.

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Yes, the question is, what is the US going to do about it?

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Take Iraq, sell the oil, impoverish the Saudis?

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IIRC, CIA also funded the Al-Qaida in the late 80's and early 90's...

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I knew that SA had paid Al Qaeda in the past, in order to persuade them not to perform terrorist acts on Saudi soil (and by inference, to perform terrorist acts elsewhere), but I was under the impression that that had stopped after 9/11, from pressure by Washington. Guess I was wrong.

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Take Iraq, sell the oil, impoverish the Saudis?


And maybe pull out our troops from SA? (Of course, that might risk it becoming the next Afghanistan - we have to make sure there is a credible birth of stable democracy there...)

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The main thing is to cut off the funding at its source.

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Supporting a dictatorial religious state is surely one of the connerstones of US foreign policy. Especaily a state which oppresses women and non muslims(and muslims who aren't the right flavour)

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Tell it to Iran.

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Iran, which is by no means a free country is less repressive than Saudi Arabia.

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hi ,

in brussels , belgium there is an embassy from all the gulfstates , in the entrance is a large map , ( gold plated ) that does not show Israel , ....

on the bottom it reads "donated by the royal kingdom of saudi arabia" , .....

well what can you expect from people who still cut other peoples heads and feet , .....

not to mention about the westerners who are still jailed today for suspected involvement of bombings , .....

the saudis covered up the investigation in the american barracks a couple years ago , .....

this is an old article from before 9/11 , ......



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



DATE=7/12/99
TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT
NUMBER=2-251666
TITLE=BOMBING ARRESTS (L)
BYLINE=LAURIE KASSMAN
DATELINE=LONDON
CONTENT=
VOICED AT:

INTRO: TWO EGYPTIANS HAVE APPEARED IN A LONDON COURT ON CHARGES
OF CONSPIRACY TO MURDER. AS CORRESPONDENT LAURIE KASSMAN REPORTS
FROM LONDON, A U-S WARRANT FOR EXTRADITION OF THE TWO MEN ACCUSES
THEM OF BOMBING TWO AMERICAN EMBASSIES LAST YEAR IN AFRICA.

TEXT: THE TWO MEN APPEARED IN A LONDON COURT TO START THE
EXTRADITION CASE AGAINST THEM. BRITISH AUTHORITIES HAVE
IDENTIFIED THE MEN AS IBRAHIM HUSSEIN ABDEL HADI EIDAROUS AND
ABEL MOHAMMED ABDUL ALMAGID BARY. THEY WERE ARRESTED SUNDAY
AFTER THE U-S GOVERNMENT ISSUED AN ARREST WARRANT FOR THEIR
EXTRADITION.

U-S AUTHORITIES ARE LINKING THE TWO MEN TO THE 1998 BOMBINGS OF
THE U-S EMBASSIES IN NAIROBI AND DAR ES SALAAM. MORE THAN
220-PEOPLE DIED IN THE TWO TERRORIST ATTACKS, MORE THAN
FIVE-THOUSAND WERE INJURED.

LAWYERS FOR THE U-S GOVERNMENT TOLD THE COURT THEY HAVE EVIDENCE
THE TWO MEN WERE INVOLVED IN THE 1998 EMBASSY BOMBINGS. BOTH MEN
HAVE DENIED THE CHARGES.

THE MEN ARE BEING CHARGED WITH CONSPIRING WITH A SAUDI ISLAMIC
MILITANT, OSAMA BIN LADEN, TO MURDER AMERICANS.

A SAUDI CITIZEN, WHO ALSO IS LINKED TO OSAMA BIN LADEN, WAS
ARRESTED IN LONDON LAST SEPTEMBER AND ALSO FACES EXTRADITION TO
THE UNITED STATES ON SIMILAR CHARGES.

U-S AUTHORITIES ACCUSE OSAMA BIN LADEN OF FINANCING AND
MASTERMINDING THE ATTACKS IN KENYA AND TANZANIA. THE U-S
GOVERNMENT ALSO HAS ACCUSED THE ALLEGED TERRORIST OF ATTACKS
AGAINST U-S PERSONNEL IN SAUDI ARABIA AND SOMALIA.

THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION HAS PUT OSAMA BIN LADEN ON
ITS LIST OF THE 10 MOST WANTED CRIMINALS. A FIVE-MILLION DOLLAR
REWARD HAS BEEN OFFERED FOR HIS CAPTURE.

OSAMA BIN LADEN HAS BEEN BASED IN AFGHANISTAN AND ALLEGEDLY RUNS
A NETWORK OF ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS IN AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST.
(SIGNED)

NEB/LMK/JWH/RAE

12-Jul-99 9:44 AM EDT (1344 UTC)
NNNN

Source: Voice of America



and today they still say they did nothing wrong , .....

many times before it has been proven that they supported al q with use of the diplomatic mail , passports , cars with diplomatic plates , funding religious and extremists mosks , etc , .....


have a nice day

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Iran, which is by no means a free country is less repressive than Saudi Arabia.


hi ,

they are a funny case , ..... on one hand they put jews in jail in the country side , but they leave the jews in the capital alone , ......

if you dont kick them they really leave you alone , .....

maybe its because they are "different" from the rest of the arab world , .....

dig up the iran contra affair , .... they asked that israel notabene would deliver the spare pieces they needed , .....

the language and culture is also different then the rest of the arab world , .....

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Step 1. US invades Iraq, establishes friendly regime, secures oil supplies and gets military basing rights.

Step 2. Saudi Arabia falls into civil war (promoted by CIA?) and becomes fundamentalist state.

Step 3. US forces (based in Iraq) move into Saudi to "restore order" and establish friendly regime.

Time will tell.

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Step 1. US invades Iraq, establishes friendly regime, secures oil supplies and gets military basing rights.

Step 2. Saudi Arabia falls into civil war (promoted by CIA?) and becomes fundamentalist state.

Step 3. US forces (based in Iraq) move into Saudi to "restore order" and establish friendly regime.

Time will tell.


hi ,

, there are some tribes who have wanted to break away since about the 30's , .....

lets hope we dont get lunatics , .... its on our doorstep afterall , ....

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The question is who cares ? The big meanie is Saddam, didn't you watch your CNN today ?

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Step 1. US invades Iraq, establishes friendly regime, secures oil supplies and gets military basing rights.

Step 2. Saudi Arabia falls into civil war (promoted by CIA?) and becomes fundamentalist state.

Step 3. US forces (based in Iraq) move into Saudi to "restore order" and establish friendly regime.

Time will tell.


Whew, can anyone spell neocolonialism? okay, so you can. But you peeked

This path will lead to America becoming the most hated country in the world and to the resulting collapse of American's position as the sole superpower in the world.

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Step 1. US invades Iraq, establishes friendly regime, secures oil supplies and gets military basing rights.

Step 2. Saudi Arabia falls into civil war (promoted by CIA?) and becomes fundamentalist state.

Step 3. US forces (based in Iraq) move into Saudi to "restore order" and establish friendly regime.

Time will tell.


To me this sounds great.

What's wrong with it?

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Yeah really, The terrorists of the world would just love a US colony in the the country with the two Holy cities.

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This path will lead to America becoming the most hated country in the world


Not that I'm advocating that path of action, but we've got this part already.

-Arrian

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Step 2. Saudi Arabia falls into civil war (promoted by CIA?) and becomes fundamentalist state.

Becomes?

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This path will lead to America becoming the most hated country in the world


I'm not worried about how popular I am among people who oppress women, trample on religious freedom, and fund international terrorism. In fact, I'd just as soon be their worst enemy.

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What happened to you're either for us or against us?

Oh right, Iraq.

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Eli, need a source for that, thank you!

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And maybe pull out our troops from SA? (Of course, that might risk it becoming the next Afghanistan - we have to make sure there is a credible birth of stable democracy there...)


Hehe. SA is at least as big of a threat to us as Afghanistan. The Taliban were providing Al Qaeda hiding and SA was providing them with funds.

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Without Saudi money the muslim terrorists would be insignificant flees. If we could some how make the Saudis poor that would be great. Their money goes to no good anyway.

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Eli, need a source for that, thank you!


Haven't found that, but found this interesting:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...6¬Found=true

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Federal and European investigators say that several lines of inquiry have emerged from their review of documents and computer files they carted off in a dozen panel trucks from offices and homes affiliated with the Herndon-based SAAR Foundation, a tight-knit cluster of prominent Muslim groups funded by wealthy Saudis


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A third part of the investigation concerns a key mystery: whether an astonishing $1.8 billion in gifts passed through the SAAR Foundation in a single year, 1998. SAAR leaders reported that sum on a tax form, but later said it was a clerical error.

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Found this:
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Report: Saudi royal family paid Bin Laden not to
attack kingdom

By Sharon Sadeh, Ha'aretz Correspondent




Senior members of the Saudi royal family paid the Al Qaida organization of Osama bin Laden and the Taliban regime at least 200 million pounds so that they would not attack targets in Saudi Arabia, the Sunday Times reported Sunday.

The report was based on affidavits and testimonies that were part of a lawsuit submitted to a U.S. court by the families of victims of the September 11 attack.

The alleged agreement between the Saudis and Al Qaida also stated that bin Laden would not attempt to overthrow the current Saudi regime in return for a Saudi promise that it would ignore requests to extradite Al Qaida members and to close the organization's training camps in Afghanistan. The Saudis, according to the report, also promised to provide oil to the Taliban regime and to bin Laden.

According to the documents, some of which have been made public in the American media over the past few weeks, the agreement was drafted after two secret meetings between the royal family and Taliban and al Qaida leaders, which were attended by bin Laden himself.

The documents, based on private investigations carried out by the families' attorneys and on intelligence information, reveal that the money paid by the Saudi royal family was used by al Qaida to fund training camps in Afghanistan, where the perpetrators of the September 11 attack spent time.

The documents state the names of the Saudi royals who engaged in negotiations with al Qaida, and give details on the way the organization raised its funds, including the names of charity funds and businesses that worked for al Qaida.

According to the documents, the Saudi royal family was concerned that there would be attacks on U.S. targets within the kingdom, and was afraid that al Qaida members, expelled from Sudan to Afghanistan, would try to overthrow the Saudi regime because of its acquiesence to the presence of U.S. forces in its soil.

The first meeting between Saudi princes and businessmen and al Qaida representatives was held in Paris in 1996 and another was held in 1998 in Kandahar, Afghanistan, the paper said.

The second meeting was attended by Saudi Prince Turki al Faisal al-Saud, Taliban leaders, senior Pakistani security officials and bin Laden. Prince al Saud knew bin Laden personally because he was the one who chose bin Laden to organize the Muslim militia that fought to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan.



http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/p...sID=0&listSrc=Y

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