27-02-2003 15:22									#1
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I thought of an interesting poll last night...please vote.

	27-02-2003 15:26									#2
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I think that there was something dodgy happening during the election, and that Gore ought to have won it. Having said that though, it's a bit late to do anything about it now.

I fully support a war with Iraq.

	27-02-2003 15:31									#3
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I'd bet there's a positive correlation here between rightly elected and the support fo war if you get a large sample enough. Even if it doesn't look at all like that at the moment with n=3. However, if we want to talk about correlations and so, a voluntary poll on a internet forum is not a unbiased statistical sample.

	27-02-2003 15:35									#4
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I'm just thinking that all this opposition to war is just partisan and an act of anti-Americansim or anti-Bushism (for those living in the States) rather than an actual consideration of the issues involved.

	27-02-2003 15:44									#5
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I'm just thinking that all this support to war is just partisan and an act of pro-Americansim or pro-Bushism (for those living in the States) rather than an actual consideration of the issues involved.

Look, it works both ways. No matter what result you would get to that poll it doesn't lead to your conclution. There's enough people making far fetched conclutions from polls that doesn't ask the questions those people claim they do. All it would prove is a correlation (or not), nothing beyond that.

	27-02-2003 15:45									#6
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Where is the "Bush is a banana" option!

	27-02-2003 15:46									#7
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I think that Bush was rightly elected according to the laws of his country, although it provided us with a good laugh at the time. The fact that the turnout was so low says that the election process there has lost touch with the people but... that's not a legal problem.

I was against the war but I'm coming round to slightly support it although I still have huge reservations about what will happen afterwards and I'm convinced it will, at least in the short term, encourage support for terrorist groups not discourage it.

	27-02-2003 17:01									#8
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I was against the war but I'm coming round to slightly support it although I still have huge reservations about what will happen afterwards and I'm convinced it will, at least in the short term, encourage support for terrorist groups not discourage it.

You blinked first. Blair is King.

	27-02-2003 17:04									#9
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It always makes me laugh when I hear people going on about Blair being like a "President", when in fact the American President has less power than the British Prime Minister.

Hopefully Blair will stay for another twenty years, but first get rid of that idiot Gordon Brown. He was OK until 2000 but then flipped.

	27-02-2003 17:13									#10
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	27-02-2003 17:53									#11
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I can't vote in this poll... there should be another option: "Bush is the anti-christ; I support military action against Saddam but not led by Bush and his oil-crew".

	27-02-2003 18:11									#12
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Bush was probably rightly elected, but I'm 100% against this war (or any other conceivable war we could fight).

	27-02-2003 18:40									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch You blinked first. Blair is King.

Actually nothing Blair has said persuaded me.

	27-02-2003 19:13									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I thought of an interesting poll last night

When are you going to post it?

	27-02-2003 20:00									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I can't vote in this poll... there should be another option: "Bush is the anti-christ; I support military action against Saddam but not led by Bush and his oil-crew".

	27-02-2003 20:03									#16
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I did a quick test when n=20, you're far from a significant correlation still.

	27-02-2003 20:37									#17
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quote: I'm just thinking that all this opposition to war is just partisan and an act of anti-Americansim or anti-Bushism (for those living in the States) rather than an actual consideration of the issues involved.

Eeh lol, it is possible that here and there es gibt einige idioten that don't support this war because they are anti-Bush, but I don't think most anti-war ppl think that way...

I for example, don't want to thwart every idea Bush attempts to spit out, I just disagree with his bad ideas, which are, it just so happens, quite numerous

	27-02-2003 21:53									#18
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You should have split this up into American and non-American as well, plus you forgot the banana option.


Floyd, hwo can you say that Bush was rightly elected when there is such overwhelming evidence of vote fraud by the Republican government of Florida that it settled out of court with the NAACP?

91,000 voters illegally kept off the rolls, plus thousands of obviously fraudulent abesntee ballots being counted (which went largely to the Republicans). Jeb Bush and Kate Harris should be in jail for what they did.

	27-02-2003 23:27									#19
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You should have split this up into American and non-American as well, plus you forgot the banana option. Floyd, hwo can you say that Bush was rightly elected when there is such overwhelming evidence of vote fraud by the Republican government of Florida that it settled out of court with the NAACP? 91,000 voters illegally kept off the rolls, plus thousands of obviously fraudulent abesntee ballots being counted (which went largely to the Republicans). Jeb Bush and Kate Harris should be in jail for what they did.

And Gore should have run a better campaign, so it didn't come down to a single state, when he had Bush to run against, a good economy (or so we thought at the time) and the best money raising the Democrats ever had in a presidential election. Gore conceded, it's over, get over it.

And vote fraud by various means is common in the US - México has far better and more advanced procedures for running accurate elections than the US does, so what does that tell you?

	27-02-2003 23:56									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat And vote fraud by various means is common in the US - México has far better and more advanced procedures for running accurate elections than the US does, so what does that tell you?

So you are willing to just accept vote fraud, and that Mexico has more advanced and accurate elections? Nobody wants to fix that

	28-02-2003 00:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat And Gore should have run a better campaign, so it didn't come down to a single state, when he had Bush to run against, a good economy (or so we thought at the time) and the best money raising the Democrats ever had in a presidential election.

I'll do you one better. If Gore hadn't been a weasal and tried to limit the scope of the recount, he would have won Florida. But by trying to screw the Republicans he screwed himself and the whole country.

I rehect the idea that because it's over or that Gore conceded, we should get over it. That's like saying, well, she's dead, so who cares about the murder. It's not bothering her anymore. The crime wasn't committed against Gore, it was committed against the American people. Gore was a weasal, but Bush's people were criminals. I don't see why we should accept this.

	28-02-2003 00:07									#22
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gores people were just as much criminals, just in other areas

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	28-02-2003 00:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller gores people were just as much criminals, just in other areas

And you shouldn't let them get away with that, either.