28-02-2003 19:18									#1
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The future of the Stella Polaris project has been unstable every now and then; especially now it's overall very fragile. However I don't yet see a good reason to fall in despair as we are still going forward, despite it's very slow compared to last year. I have prepared myself for the worst as things have been going rather bad, so frankly said I'm ready to call off the project at anytime, if it StP turns out as "GGS II." However I'm currently positive about the current situation, but I agree that much has to be done in order to keep the project going.

The imminent changes are that several SPDT members will be sacked for very inco-operative habits and some minor changes will be made. However the target is to keep the team about as large as before. Basically the idea is to maintain a team which isn't necessarily large, but at least active (not necesarily as extreme as Ace ). One thing that I want to stress is that everyone must be aware that the expectations for what will be achieved aren't that high as you may understand. I hope that by June or July we could start the alpha testing face with the Alpha 1 release. Hopefully we could by the end of the year celebrate Alpha 2 or 3. I also remind that if we end up in locked situation for weeks and months, there's no hesitation that I would be ready to call of the project, so I hope you take a such decision maturely and don't start to blackmail people.

Right, now I assume things are quite clear.

	01-03-2003 03:29									#2
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As the first measure, Alien and Carbaher will be suspended due to the fact that none of them have tried to be active. More suspensions might be planned soon.

	01-03-2003 03:31									#3
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Also notice that I will be from now on Project Manager and Frozzy will continue his work as Project Advisor, so small changes there too.

	08-03-2003 08:54									#4
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Keep going if you can.

	08-03-2003 13:57									#5
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Oh we will try to keep going, but it more or less depends on if the coders start doing alot of work and start making progress. I however think this project wont die so fast as many are keen to get to work yet lack the expertise in coding.

MY OPINION: I think we need an experianced programmer that is good in OpenGL, C++, Graphics with C++, and object oriented programming, among other things. Or if its possible we need more than just one good experianced person, also we need the person(s) to do the work, but of course this is my opinion.

Well anyways thanks for the comment.
-J.B.-

	18-03-2003 22:29									#6
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Hmm... the website and forums seem to have been taken out. Is the project now officially disbanded, or is this just a temporary measure?

	18-03-2003 22:46									#7
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Expect an official statement within the next 24 hours. Thanks!

	19-03-2003 23:55									#8
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"From ashes to ashes, from dust to dust."

So this is the end of the line?

	20-03-2003 00:30									#9
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tick tock tick tock..

24 hours passed, and i'm kinda curious what your statement will be

	20-03-2003 00:50									#10
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* Ari Rahikkala AOL!!!!s what Lemmy said *

	20-03-2003 05:27									#11
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24 -> 48

	20-03-2003 12:32									#12
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Let me just say that I am disappointed by the way this decision seems to be made by one man, and I hope that if this is Rasbey's final decision, that others will want to go on with the project under a different management.

	20-03-2003 18:02									#13
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The project is dead, Joeno.

	20-03-2003 18:13									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin The project is dead, Joeno.

Was that the official statement?

	20-03-2003 20:04									#15
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I don't like it.

There are people who put a lot of time into this project. There are a lot of ideas and stories. Don't let them go to waste.

Just because the project is 'sleeping', doesn't mean it's dead. What we need to do is actively search for dedicated coders.

	20-03-2003 20:31									#16
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Lemmy,

the official statement is in the A/C forum.

Michiel,

I have done that for 8-9 months on many sites and communities, but no greater success. Sorry, but I'm not going to do that for ages.

	20-03-2003 22:05									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin The project is dead, Joeno.

That's what you say. I'm sure there's many others who disagree, as was evident from the activity still going on in, say, the Coding Quarters.

I repeat, I hope I'm not the only one in thinking this project was killed by only a few people who were not involved in the coding process, and that we can still do something, and that together, we will still be able to create something. Without some resources we had earlier, but that we can at least do something.

	20-03-2003 22:08									#18
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...i am in for well anything almost...i put some of my bunnyenegry in this project....so i am in for something

	20-03-2003 22:36									#19
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As for the coding, I've never seen a single line of code or anything by you, Joeno. You were only posting 6 times on SPF, out of which 2 were about some concept; the rest was whining.

	20-03-2003 22:43									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin As for the coding, I've never seen a single line of code or anything by you, Joeno. You were only posting 6 times on SPF, out of which 2 were about some concept; the rest was whining.

And you have made more posts about some concept?

Anyway, I have not said I should lead the project, or that I have to help, or whatever. I just said it's a shame that it has been killed off in such a way, and that I am sure this shouldn't have been the end, and I'm trying to get it working further.

	20-03-2003 22:49									#21
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Who made the concept archive? Who asked people to check several threads so that they could comment, so that he could have added them to the archive? That was me. I have BTW proposed several minor ideas and discussed ones, so I have participated in that too.

	21-03-2003 08:05									#22
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[Edit: Accidental post, please delete. Thanks .]

Last edited by Jeremy Buloch on 21-03-2003 at 08:16