01-03-2003 00:38									#1
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Trajan started a new ladder on an ELO based system.

If anyone is interested:

http://civladder.dyndns.org/

Discussion on creation:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...y=&pagenumber=1

*atawa stocking up on popcorn and beer*

	01-03-2003 01:03									#2
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quote: Originally posted by atawa *atawa stocking up on popcorn and beer*

A good idea

	01-03-2003 01:42									#3
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hm...if we could have a legit ladder i think people would be interested......

of course legit and ladder are never to be used in the same sentence....

	01-03-2003 01:47									#4
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How is this ladder not legit you stupid ****ing canuk? I hate stupid ****ing canuks.

	01-03-2003 05:22									#5
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Wow, another enlightning post from the master

	01-03-2003 05:37									#6
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well the other thing to take into consideration is the different settings.... is the ladder x2x2king only?

if so, you know what polys response to that will be

if not, then as long as people dont cheat and that can be guarranteed, you may have some luck :b

	01-03-2003 05:50									#7
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As far as I can see poly plays 1x1x: Oz group, 2x1x: Rah group, 2x2x: most people not belonging to either group.

It's not settings ladder, agree on settings before play.

This will off course ean that when challenging someone who is higher ranked, you should play his settings probably.

But with different players this is a bopnus IMO

	01-03-2003 05:59									#8
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i play all settings, the one i suck at the most (saving you a response SEAN) is x2x2king of course....

	01-03-2003 18:39									#9
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I think the 2 main camps will be 1x1x deity and 2x2x king (main camp). Either some preset compromise setting like 2x1x emperor will be played in the event of a dispute, or the ladder will, I fear, become solely 2x2x king.

	02-03-2003 09:25									#10
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quote: This will off course [m]ean that when challenging someone who is higher ranked, you should play his settings probably.

Atawa:
Just a suggestion.

Why not try the reverse?

In the case of a difference in settings, have the higher ranked player accede to the lower.

This way the top ranked player has to be skilled in a variety of settings.

	02-03-2003 13:08									#11
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good point obi wan......the council will accept you in time

	02-03-2003 16:36									#12
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Good point indeed, but what sounds good in theory will never happen in the real world.

Most likely the higher ranked player (with more points at stake) will then just refuse to accept the challenge.

	02-03-2003 16:42									#13
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Most likely the higher ranked player (with more points at stake) will then just refuse to accept the challenge.

See rule 8 of the 'greatest civ player rules' list.

	02-03-2003 16:51									#14
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Oz group, 2x1x:

what oz group?

	02-03-2003 19:32									#15
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You guys, and 1x1x...

	03-03-2003 02:43									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MalevolentLight How is this ladder not legit you stupid ****ing canuk? I hate stupid ****ing canuks.

Can you guys stick to intelligent comments such as these so that the popcorn manufacturers can make some money.

	03-03-2003 15:58									#17
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quote: Originally posted by atawa You guys, and 1x1x...

Forgive Horse - he has trouble reading...

	03-03-2003 22:20									#18
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quote: good point obi wan......the council will accept you in time.

War4ever,
Which council do you refer to?

atawa: You would have to set rules on the number of challenges allowed. If you have a top player refusing to play anyone and sacrifice his position, you could remove him from the ladder.

*waits for EoN*

	03-03-2003 23:18									#19
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I think Trajan can be trusted with running a fair ladder

	03-03-2003 23:53									#20
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it was a Star Wars reference Obi wan......

yeah, i remmeber former champs of gameleague would reach the top, refuse challenges unless there were enough points involved, this would lead to inactivity, deletion/quitting and then coming back to reclaim the throne..

if the ladder is run fairly and not just x2x2king i would be very interested

	04-03-2003 00:10									#21
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Too bad you don't know what you're talking about war. If anything it's tougher to find a game when you're number 1 because all the players dodge you. And playing against someone with no points is useless when you're number 1. Better to play the top 15 to be worth my time. So next time think before you open your mouth, it just makes you sound stupid. And the reason nobody plays deity is because nobody wants to play deity. Your use of the word "fair" is not proper in this case. Just face the fact nobody uses Deity on ladders, you are of course more than welcome to play it, but you won't find anyone who wants to play it.

	04-03-2003 00:28									#22
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The "silly kraut" ladder is predominantly 1x1x deity.

	04-03-2003 00:35									#23
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Lets have 2 ladders then

http://www.civ2.org/liga/portal.php

http://civladder.dyndns.org/

We can play 2x1x Emp for the overall title

	04-03-2003 00:43									#24
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The kraut ladder is made up of losers who couldn't hack it on a real ladder. Jes, woke, etc.

	04-03-2003 03:11									#25
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words, words, nothing but words from our "serious game player"

eyes, your like a boy in a dark wood, talking all the time with himself, for he has to fear the great big unknown.

you can only think in: great ok, or:loser who cant stand; oh poor eyes, poor eyes.

but its very generous you let the "stupid krauts" live their silly life for their own. dont think about them, only talk, and prodice endless word-snakes

	04-03-2003 03:22									#26
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Now lets try that in English.

	04-03-2003 04:18									#27
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Ladders are for kids - they are sooo childish.

	04-03-2003 04:57									#28
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From reading the "comments" from the serious players, it kind of makes you understand why others may find the concept of another ladder not worth the effort

	04-03-2003 05:22									#29
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quote: Now lets try that in English.

Could you translate for me EoN? My German is kinda rusty.

	04-03-2003 12:04									#30
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ok, its not only the thing, that im not the greatest civver of all, also my english is bad. i know it, and in can understand your laughing about

in german i would say, it is "peinlich" what i wrote, so its not worth to translate.

on the other hand: if somebody of another country would come in our forum and would write something, we would try to answer to his arguments. maybe this is only a manner of the "old europa".