30-04-2003 15:54									#31
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quote: Originally posted by player1 American copy in disguise?

Both me and palgue rat are from scandinavia. We've got the scandinavian distribution. When it comes to games most scandinavian distributions are american version.

	30-04-2003 17:33									#32
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Really? How strange... Perhaps we have become culture-flipped?
We are now US states, such as Hawaii. Hey, don't you draft me!

	01-05-2003 08:17									#33
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quote: Originally posted by player1 American copy in disguise?

hi ,

correct , there are several type's of boxes around , .....

there is even an american box that has an intro in spanish , .....

have a nice day

	01-05-2003 08:18									#34
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quote: Originally posted by ThePlagueRat Yook, IMO the Civ3 single player experience gets somewhat more fun with a PTW add-on. More challenging AI, some nice mods, and some few more units and civs. But it's not enough to call it Civ4. Anyway... Infogrames deserves a lawsuit for this kind of suspicious distribution. NOTE: If panag is right about those computer shops, I might have to correct myself from my previous post, since I might posess the US version without knowing it. The container does not say anything about it. As I said, the US patch actually worked, (!?) and I bought PTW in a small shop in Norway......

hi ,

could very well be , .....

with the other english ( uk ) version you would have problems , ....

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	01-05-2003 08:31									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Yook I think I misunderstood something. I had read/heard that PTW made changes to/patched the single-player game. Are these changes (not counting new units and the whatnot, the stuff that expansion packs are for) incorporated into the standalone Civ3 in subsequent patches? In other words, and to be frank, is it worth playing yet, if one doesn't feel like shelling out more money for PTW? Yes, I know that's a loaded question with a very subjective answer. -Yook

hi ,

yes its worth it

no , ptw is an add on , you dont get those extra units and civ's in a patch , a patch fixes things that dont work to good

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	05-05-2003 14:55									#36
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quote: Originally posted by statusperfect Both me and palgue rat are from scandinavia. We've got the scandinavian distribution. When it comes to games most scandinavian distributions are american version.

Went out today to get PTW (finally worth playing now, I thought), but I guess they've stopped selling the US version in Norway (I'm sure I've seen it here before). The Euro version is everywhere So no PTW for me, I guess.

Fred

	05-05-2003 15:58									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum Went out today to get PTW (finally worth playing now, I thought), but I guess they've stopped selling the US version in Norway (I'm sure I've seen it here before). The Euro version is everywhere So no PTW for me, I guess. Fred

My american PTW came in a european box with Denmarks, FInlands, Norwats anbd Swedens flags on the back.

	05-05-2003 19:37									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum Went out today to get PTW (finally worth playing now, I thought), but I guess they've stopped selling the US version in Norway (I'm sure I've seen it here before). The Euro version is everywhere So no PTW for me, I guess. Fred

hi ,

go to the civ three section of poly > http://apolyton.net/civ3/

and order yourself a US english one , .....

its 19.99 and free shipping (!)


have a nice day

	05-05-2003 20:22									#39
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , go to the civ three section of poly > http://apolyton.net/civ3/ and order yourself a US english one , ..... its 19.99 and free shipping (!) have a nice day

Thank you.. but Video games can not be shipped outside the US. Don't ask me why. Unless I order from a European store, in which case I assume I will get the Euro version.


Fred

	05-05-2003 20:25									#40
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quote: Originally posted by statusperfect My american PTW came in a european box with Denmarks, FInlands, Norwats anbd Swedens flags on the back.

That's weeeird Maybe I'll get it and pray for a US version.. strange thing, but judging by the box it's no doubt the EU version

	05-05-2003 20:30									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum That's weeeird Maybe I'll get it and pray for a US version.. strange thing, but judging by the box it's no doubt the EU version

go get it. you will enjoy it in single player even without the latest patch and if it is a scandinavian one the american patch will work

	05-05-2003 21:42									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum Thank you.. but Video games can not be shipped outside the US. Don't ask me why. Unless I order from a European store, in which case I assume I will get the Euro version. Fred

hi ,



huh , then what is the order that arrived to day in france doing , ....

not to mention of other orders to Israel , italy , luxembourg , ......

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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , huh , then what is the order that arrived to day in france doing , .... not to mention of other orders to Israel , italy , luxembourg , ...... have a nice day

Hehe, ok where did you order from? I tried amazon.com, but they refused to ship it to my address claiming that such goods could only be shipped inside the US due to some kind of regulations..

	05-05-2003 22:10									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum Hehe, ok where did you order from? I tried amazon.com, but they refused to ship it to my address claiming that such goods could only be shipped inside the US due to some kind of regulations..

hi ,

" amazon "

what kind of new regulation is this

i did an order for france this afternoon without any problems , ....

when i saw that the priced had changed again i even send an email to Mark so he can adjust the price ( it changes sometimes from day to day )

the order went on fine , as always , ....

have a nice day

	05-05-2003 22:35									#45
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , " amazon " what kind of new regulation is this i did an order for france this afternoon without any problems , .... when i saw that the priced had changed again i even send an email to Mark so he can adjust the price ( it changes sometimes from day to day ) the order went on fine , as always , .... have a nice day

Quote from amazon.com:

quote: Warranty issues and manufacturer restrictions prevent us from shipping certain products to all geographical locations. Below are some general guidelines. Please also check the product detail pages for any other applicable item-specific shipping restrictions. Toys, games, and video games can be shipped only to locations within the U.S., U.S. protectorates, and APO/FPO addresses. Electronics can be shipped within the U.S. only. Some can also be shipped to U.S. protectorates and APO/FPO addresses. You'll be notified while placing your order if we're unable to ship specific electronics items to the address you've selected.

I think they changed this a bit over a year ago. Anyway, I just went out and bought the Scandinavian (I think) version.. so we'll see...

	05-05-2003 23:09									#46
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w0t, it works!

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cool

	06-05-2003 04:03									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Fredric Drum w0t, it works!

we scandinavians are privileged!

	06-05-2003 04:43									#49
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I bought my US copy of Civ3 from France through Gamestop and it worked just fine. Only that it costed 15 extra € for shipping AND yet another 15 € for tolls

That's why I bought my PtW from the UK. Unfortunately, I didn't imagine the UK versions of PtW would get as much screwed as other localizations

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I bought my US copy of Civ3 from France through Gamestop and it worked just fine. Only that it costed 15 extra € for shipping AND yet another 15 € for tolls That's why I bought my PtW from the UK. Unfortunately, I didn't imagine the UK versions of PtW would get as much screwed as other localizations

hi ,

spiffor , are you inside the EU , ... cause if you are they cant charge you toll twice , ....

they might have changed it last year , but i had no problem whatsoever this noon in getting an order shipped to france , .... maybe its because i have been a customer for so long

anyway , try to send an email to them , ..... a no you have , a yes you can get , ....

have a nice day

	06-05-2003 23:54									#51
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As I can recall, EU started out as a taxfree union.
So it's very suspicious if they can charge toll once inside.

	11-05-2003 21:18									#52
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Sorry, I wasn't clear : I bought my PtW copy in the UK precisely not to pay tolls and to pay lower shipping costs.

When I bought my vanilla Civ3 copy in the US, I was baffled at the sight of what I had to pay in shipping + tolls (30€ total )

	12-05-2003 09:00									#53
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Spiffor, do you know of any U.S. military personnel stationed in the U.K.? If so, you can have the software sent to their APO address and bypass the tolls/high shipping costs....just a thought...of course it does take having a U.S. military/contractor contact.

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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Spiffor, do you know of any U.S. military personnel stationed in the U.K.? If so, you can have the software sent to their APO address and bypass the tolls/high shipping costs....just a thought...of course it does take having a U.S. military/contractor contact.

hi ,

not only that , but you can ask a friend or someone you know from the net to send it true regular mail , .... one only a small percent get taxed , two you have the right for a free non taxable gift to be send from overseas in the EU , ..... with a max of 50 usd / eur

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	14-05-2003 04:14									#55
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I use to buy my US game versions through ebay.de. Just bought a GalCiv from a German seller for €42.50, including shipping . This way, I bypass tolls and high overseas shipping prices.

	14-05-2003 22:23									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph I use to buy my US game versions through ebay.de. Just bought a GalCiv from a German seller for €42.50, including shipping . This way, I bypass tolls and high overseas shipping prices.

hi ,


great can you post more info so others in europe can also get it

have a nice day

	16-05-2003 20:28									#57
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As for the UK patch, they're still working on it. Waiting for it to be localised… After a couple of emails to Infogrames (UK), that was all they had to say.

But the most unfortunate thing is that despite this mockery of support and customer service, Firaxis is carrying on its partnership with Infogrames!

	16-05-2003 21:57									#58
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I think Atari owns the license Civilization, and they decide which studio will develop games from this licence. So, Firaxis can not develop Civ outside of Atari's dominance

It is however very surprising that Firaxis have strengthened their partnership with Atari for other products, such as Pirates! and others

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I think Atari owns the license Civilization, and they decide which studio will develop games from this licence. So, Firaxis can not develop Civ outside of Atari's dominance It is however very surprising that Firaxis have strengthened their partnership with Atari for other products, such as Pirates! and others

I think "Pirates" is a very appropriate game for a firm who only looks after US users' interests to market!

	25-05-2003 22:30									#60
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