01-03-2003 12:29									#1
	The Apolyton Socialist Book Club: March Vote Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

First of all, thanks to Che for coming up with such a splendidly genius idea. I hope he doesn't mind me taking the initiative in his absence, but glory favors the bold as they say.

Allow me to introduce the candidates
Engels' - Socialism: Utopion and Scientific
nominate by Che
Described by Che as "...the work that turned socialism into a Marxist movement. Prior to this booklet being released, socialism was a bunch of competing different ideologies. At the request of the French section of the First International, Engels editted a few chapters of his larger work Anti-Dühring into a pamphlet expaining what socialism was, from where it arose, and the Marxist view of socialism. It spread throughout the socialist movement and was far more important that the Communist Manifesto, in gaining adherents to Marxism. It's a fairly easy place to start."
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books
http://marxists.org/archive/marx/wo...-utop/index.htm

JS Mill - Utilitarianism
nominated by Azrael
"One of the cornerstone works on utilitarian ethics".
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...3313628-7058543

Hardt, Negri - Empire
nominated by monkspider
described as "a neo-Marxist look at Globalization, and has been called the communist manifesto of the 21st century."
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

Guevara- Motorcycle Diaries
nominated by Lazarus and the Gimp
Praised by Laz as "actually entertaining",
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

Goldman- Living My Life
nominated by Ramo
Described by Ramo as a book that is not "mind-numbingly boring"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

London - Iron Heel
nominated by Stefu
Described by Stefu as a book that "makes you think about big questions of life such as "My god, what kind of a writer names his main character 'Ernest Everhard'?"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

Wainwright - Arguments for a New Left
nominated by Buck Birdseed
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

Tse-Tung - Quotations of Mao Tse-Tung
nominated by Gangerolf
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...3313628-7058543


Smith - Theory of Moral Sentiments
nominated by DuncanK
Described as " a discussion of enlightenment ethics"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...3313628-7058543

Trotsky- Proletarion Dictatorship and Democracy
nominated by DinoD
http://www.marxists.org/archive/tro...torvs/index.htm
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846

RULES FOR VOTING- MUST READ!
-you may vote for up to three candidates
-The book with the most votes at the end of the election will be the March Apolyton Socialist book of month.

Good luck, and happy voting!

If you are interesting in purchasing a book and wish not to support the Amazon imperialists, you can find an excellent Marxist bookstore at the following link. Unfortunately for Americans it is UK based, so overseas shipping rates may be rather exorbitant.
http://wellred.marxist.com/index.asp

Last edited by monkspider on 01-03-2003 at 21:47

	01-03-2003 12:33									#2
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In case of a tie....?

Likely the best thing to do is have Che pick between the tied books. Coin flipping is always a useful skill in these sort of decisions.

	01-03-2003 12:38									#3
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Oh boy, ties, that's a tough one. I guess in case of a tie, we will use a random number generator to determine the winner.

-edit cross-post/edit - Both of your suggestions are good ones John.

	01-03-2003 12:39									#4
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Oops. I cross-edited with your post. My bad.

	01-03-2003 12:40									#5
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Books?! With all this Poly posting, who has time for books?

	01-03-2003 12:41									#6
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This is a better link to use for my suggestion: http://www.marxists.org/archive/tro...torvs/index.htm

	01-03-2003 12:43									#7
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Thanks DinoD, I will update the original post.

	01-03-2003 13:55									#8
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So far Guevara is winning, looks like it will be close.

	01-03-2003 18:34									#9
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monkspider, it's Mill, not Mills.

a short description: "One of the cornerstone works on utilitarian ethics".

Thanks.

	01-03-2003 21:48									#10
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Thanks Az, the first post is now updated.

	01-03-2003 23:02									#11
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I voted for 5

Jon Miller

	01-03-2003 23:14									#12
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Once again Bellamy's Looking Backward gets the shaft. Shame.

	01-03-2003 23:15									#13
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Azrael?!

mosquerider.

	01-03-2003 23:21									#14
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Theory of Moral Sentiments can easily found in complete form on the internet with a google search. Doesn't look like it will have much chance though

	01-03-2003 23:50									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 Once again Bellamy's Looking Backward gets the shaft. Shame.

Nominate it for April.

	02-03-2003 01:52									#16
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Nominate it for April.

I'll cross-nominate to the science fiction book club too.

	02-03-2003 02:09									#17
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Hey Che, how long do you think we should let this poll last?

	02-03-2003 02:34									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

they're all great books.

	02-03-2003 06:53									#19
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Bah, how could Emma Goldman be losing?

	02-03-2003 09:22									#20
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It's a big book.

	02-03-2003 09:22									#21
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Hey Che, how long do you think we should let this poll last?

Monday?

	02-03-2003 09:23									#22
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Monday?

Sounds good.

	03-03-2003 12:13									#23
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Well?

	03-03-2003 19:15									#24
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As of 8:20 central time, the Engels work was ahead of second place Guevara's "Motorcycle diaries" making it the Apolyton Socialist Club's March book of the month. Thanks to all that voted.
I will allow Che to start a thread on the book since it is his nomination.

	03-03-2003 23:20									#25
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bump for Che to see.

	04-03-2003 09:19									#26
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bump again for that lazy bum che.

	04-03-2003 10:12									#27
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Pick Engel, I already have that book and won't need to waste more money I don't have .

	04-03-2003 10:18									#28
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Che is probably working on a brilliant analysis, chock-full of cross-references to every one of the other nominated works. I eagerly await his results.

	04-03-2003 10:18									#29
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I really wanted to see a discussion on Trotsky's defense of State terrorism.

	05-03-2003 07:32									#30
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I really wanted to see a discussion on Trotsky's defense of State terrorism.

You will.


Now, everyone go read Engles! You can find it here for free. We'll do the thread for it's discussion next week, to give folks some time to read it.