01-03-2003 17:43									#1
	Should I buy PTW if I am only going to do SP? Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Ok folks, now that the latest patch is out and all, I'm wondering about buying PTW.

Thing is, I won't be using it for multiplayer - single player only for me. Now, unlike a lot of people, I really like CivIII. I like the culture, and the corruption and so on!

So, would PTW be worth it for me? Are the enhancments to single player worth it?

Thanks for your time!

	01-03-2003 17:49									#2
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I think so. I play a lot more SP than MP and I like the enhancements.

	01-03-2003 18:16									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

They were worth it to me, mainly for the improvements in designing improvements.

	01-03-2003 18:22									#4
	Support Apolyton

And make sure to try to do at least one PBEM game. MUCH !!! more fun against humans (albeit slow).

But yes, buy it if your only gonna use SP

	01-03-2003 19:08									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Thanks guys! Looks like I'll get it then.

I was going to get MOO3 but, well, suffice to say I've changed my mind about that...

As a matter of interest, what do you guys think are the best improvements that PTW offers SP?

	01-03-2003 20:06									#6
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

-Worker buttons (instead of remembering all the keyboard shortcuts)
-small AI improvements + remaining in the upgrade path(1.21for PTW just came out)

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	01-03-2003 20:23									#7
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The advanced editor options mean lots of nice looking scenarios. Not quite as customisable as in Civ2, but the Double Your Pleasure mod (more units, techs, Wonders etc etc) has to be seen to be believed!

	02-03-2003 03:49									#8
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Do not forget the interesting new graphic effects for bombardment. Eye-candy, I know, but I like it!

	02-03-2003 05:24									#9
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I only play SP with PtW, and I don't regret buying it. The new Civs, new units, and enhancements make it more than worthwhile I have yet to see the Double Your Pleasure mod

	02-03-2003 05:42									#10
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Great, I think it'll be well worth £15 to me.

	02-03-2003 05:45									#11
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my favourite changes:
- removed (some, not all) hardcoded stuff
- 24 playable civs at once
- new and surprisingly interesting units (berserk, guerilla, etc.)

but most important:
there will be patches for PTW, but none anymore for civ3, which means those (admitedly few) bugs left will stay there forever...

	02-03-2003 09:53									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Airfields. They're so handy.

Ancient units upgrading to Guerillas. I had stopped bothering to build archer/longbow before PtW.

	15-03-2003 11:58									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I usually just play SP. Sometimes hotseat w/ my son. I still can't figure out how to get connected to the web.

Just the new civs make it worth while to me

	15-03-2003 20:36									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Yes. PTW SP is great.

	15-03-2003 20:52									#15
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Yes... I think that the original Civ3 sucked major ass, but PTW with the most recent patches is actually pretty good. In another thread I specifically exclaimed that Civ3 has been promoted from "sucks" status.

	16-03-2003 08:10									#16
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quote: Originally posted by GodSpawn As a matter of interest, what do you guys think are the best improvements that PTW offers SP?

Proper stack movement and rally points! And some interesting features in the editor, especially regarding movement costs and overrides.

	16-03-2003 15:26									#17
	Tired of ads?

PtW's AI (since the first patch, v1.04) is a lot better in managing shield production, so building crucial wonders in monarch/emperor is harder for the human player.

	16-03-2003 22:35									#18
	Tired of ads?

Yeah, rally points and stack moving makes the game so much faster in later stages when I begin conquering people!

	17-03-2003 05:10									#19
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Yes. Just to play the Ottmans and overrun my old enemies with sipahis is worth €30 I payed for it.
The upgrade path for units are improved. New city improvments gives more choises and boring episodes in some endgame get shorter.
The only complain I have is the new anti-copying sceme that annoy honest buyers but not deterr crackers.

	17-03-2003 23:44									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

yes

	18-03-2003 01:35									#21
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Yes. New civs, new units, better AI (at building anyway) make it worth it. Civ III patches are all incorporated. Well worth it for SP.

	18-03-2003 04:51									#22
	Put an end to popups!

Yes.

In addition to the improvements mentioned by others (which I thought were worth the A$49 I paid) you also get some mods/scenarios and maps. The Double your Pleasure mod is absolutely first rate.