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Authorize disbanding the Lemuforce to assist in winning a wonder race?
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Yes 6 100.00%
No 0 0%
Abstain 0 0%
Total: 6 voters 100%
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MrBaggins is offline MrBaggins
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May 1999
time: 05:26
  Old Post 02-03-2003 02:14
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I am concerned that we will be beaten by the AI to a wonder of our choosing (at the moment Ramajana, although I like Chichen Itza too.)

We have only just started a wonder, in Pressburg, which will take less than (although not much less than) 28 turns.

Two AI's already have Wonder projects underway (as far as I recall.)

We could well find ourselves being shut out of the wonder of our choice, by lack of resources.

I would, to solve this, like to give ourselves an option to guarantee winning the race. We don't have enough cash to rush buy with a large number of turns left, but we do have a number of spare units, without definitive plans beyond taking Wels.

I would like to return these to Pedrunnia, to optionally be able to disband them, to win a close wonder race.

If its apparent that we don't need to disband them, or we need them for a critical defensive situation, then I will happily release them.

Should we build the wonder without needing them, then they can obviously be released to collaborate in an offensive action against Austria.

I will also, naturally, pledge to, as MoDA rebuild the units with the utmost urgency.

These units, sitting waiting to have a larger force built around them, doing nothing, are significantly less valuable to us than theoretically building an important wonder, such as the Ramajana or Chichen Itza.

I urge the citizenry to authorize this course of action for the stack of troops that will attack Wels (after they attack, not instead.)

MrBaggins

HuangShang is offline HuangShang
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USA, SoCal, L.A.
Jul 2002
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i voted yes but only to injured units

Gilgamensch is offline Gilgamensch
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Jun 2002
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  Old Post 03-03-2003 15:24
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I voted Yes.

If needed I would even allow to disband new units (so long not needed) to rush the wonder('s). We need to beat the AI towards the wonders..........

Martin Gühmann is offline Martin Gühmann
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Berlin, Germany
Mar 2001
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SIZE=1]Originally posted by MrBaggins[/SIZE]
I urge the citizenry to authorize this course of action for the stack of troops that will attack Wels (after they attack, not instead.)[/SIZE]

I am afrraid you cannot ask for the authorisation for disbanding units. Accordingly to our constitution, only the Minister of Defence can decide on disbanding units.

[QUOTE]
V. The Minister of Defense
(a) The Minister of Defense is responsible for all units and their orders including the disband order, except settlers and all other unconventional units.
(b)Any action which would result in a declaration of war has to be evaluated by the citizens through an Official Poll (Article IV, Subsection 3-II).
(c) The Minister of Defense may name any army to ease discussions.


So you have to ask the Minister of Defence if we should disband the stack in Pedrunnia, and you have also ask him if he is so kind to move the stack to Pedrunnia. Or you have to do an RESOLUTION poll to move the stack to Pedrunnia in order to have the disband option that should be used in the case of the cases.

-Martin

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
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Jul 2001
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  Old Post 06-03-2003 03:10
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I say yes but as the MoD I need much more thinking and a disbanding plan.

Make a request. How many units is needed? I will think about what I can do...

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
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Jul 2001
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Please, Martin or Tamerlin or baggins, whoever is the current MoDA how many units would you like me to disband in Pedrunnia to rush wonder.

I need this number to make the Plan for the next chat!!!

Martin Gühmann is offline Martin Gühmann
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Please, Martin or Tamerlin or baggins, whoever is the current MoDA how many units would you like me to disband in Pedrunnia to rush wonder.

I need this number to make the Plan for the next chat!!!


IIRC Tamerlin though of 8 units from the Lemuforce. Actual I think we can tale some more units from the surrounding cities. However we still need some turns before the unit disbanding will of any use for us.

-Martin

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
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Jul 2001
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I wish i had this information before. Thats a hell lot of units. But i, yet a bit reluctant, am ok in granting them.

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
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But first I need to know how many turns will be rushed with the disbanding of the units!

That a very important information for our plans

miggio is offline miggio
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canada
Jan 2003
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Got spare money?

Mistake? what mistake

Martin Gühmann is offline Martin Gühmann
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Got spare money?

One unit give one turn of production.

-Martin

J Bytheway is offline J Bytheway
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England
Jul 2001
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I believe each unit contributes 50% of its production cost. It was discovered recently that in CTP the bonuses from production improvements added to this total, but that shouldn't matter here, since we have none.

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