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Almost all of the first British "human shields" to go to Iraq were on their way home last night after deciding that their much-heralded task was now too dangerous.

Two red double-decker buses, which symbolised the hopes of anti-war activists when they arrived to a fanfare of publicity a fortnight ago, slipped quietly out of Baghdad on the long journey back to Britain.

Nine of the original 11 activists decided to pull out after being given an ultimatum by Iraqi officials to station themselves at targets likely to be bombed in a war or leave the country. Among those departing last night was 68-year-old Godfrey Meynell, a former High Sheriff of Derbyshire, who admitted that he was leaving out of "cold fear". He had been summoned, along with 200 other shields from all over the world, to a meeting at a Baghdad hotel yesterday morning.

Abdul Hashimi, the head of the Friendship, Peace and Solidarity organisation that is hosting the protesters, told the shields to choose between nine so-called "strategic sites" by today or quit the country.

The Iraqi warning follows frustration among Saddam Hussein's officials that only about 65 of the shields had so far agreed to take up positions at the oil refineries, power plants and water-purification sites selected by their hosts.

It heightened fears among some peace activists that they could be stationed at non-civilian sites. Mr Meynell and fellow protesters who moved into the power station in south Baghdad last weekend were dismayed to find it stood immediately next to an army base and the strategically crucial main road south to Basra. Iraqi officials said there was little point in guarding what they considered to be low-risk targets.

Iraq's decision to force the pace was welcomed by some of the 20 Britons remaining in Baghdad. "It's only fair," said Uzma Bashir, 32, a college lecturer who is one of the team leaders.

"We've come here as shields to defend sites and now the Iraqis are asking us to make our choice."


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ok, that was funny



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What's so funny about that?

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not funny ha ha

funny like irony is

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3rd to last paragraph

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Back-pedaling on the path of Darwinism...

Clearly, this is a partial victory for ALL Humankind: Their intelligence genes have have finally grown strong enough to soundly out motivate them than their stupidity genes have. We could be witnessing evolution in action, a renaisance of Human society. All they need to do is get out of the country safely and procreate to pass on their now-stronger intelligence genes to future generations...

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Pussies. I wouldn't have gone to Baghdad because it would have been worthless to throw my life away, but once they tell people they're willing to face death they should have the balls to stick it out.

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chickendoves

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I have only two words for them. The first is "Ha". You can guess the second.

I have absolutely NO respect for these people. You want to protest the war, fine. You want to fight the war on the Iraqi side, you're a jerk, but fine. But to try and use people's morality against them and take advantage of their not wanting you to die is just despicable. I half wish they would have stayed and gotten bombed, and I quarter wish we bomb the buses anyway.

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Maybe U.S. intelligence has infiltrated a spy or two among the "human shields" who remain behind in Iraq, dutifully "protecting" valuable Iraqi targets ...

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chickendoves


The difference is that the chickendoves are all talk, and no action.

The chickenhawks are lots of talk, and someone else's action.

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These folks should have a big "W" tattooed on their foreheads. And no, surprisingly enough tha has nothing to do with the Shrub's middle name.

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hahahahaa

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Their vaginas must have gotten swollen.

Big fat pussies.

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That's some funny stuff.

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The difference is that the chickendoves are all talk, and no action.

The chickenhawks are lots of talk, and someone else's action.


Speak for yourself my friend. I am a member of the VFW.

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I'd say Saddam was putting them next to extremely high risk sites (next to military bases instead of in say hospitals) because he wants to see most of them end up dead. Alive there worth very little but just think of the miles they'd get from the propoganda after the chickendoves are killed by the evil Americans.

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I'm glad they left. Their action would have brought nothing but help to the Saddam regime (by protecting military bases rather than hospitals). And I'm glad they have enough survival instinct to leave before the slaighter begins

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I figgured this was going to happen, but I thought Saddam would forcibly make them human shields, not let them leave. I thought they would be tied to tanks, etc...

Remember when Saddam took human shields last time out, his news conference with the scared little British kid, among others kidnapped and later released do to world opinion.

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Well all is not lost. There is still the option of setting their hair on fire in London.

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Originally they were just stupid. But now they have completed their descent into patheticness.

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what bothers me is they thought they would go to low risk sites like hospitals.

How can you be a human shield at a hospital? That makes no sense.

To be effective at as a human shield you must go to a high risk site.

So it turns out they just wanted attention, and really had no interest in actually being a human shield.

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hi ,

chickens , ......

have a nice day

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"Wait, wait, wait. You mean being a human shield means I might get bombed trying to save a military installation? Wow, no one told me that. I think I'll be going now."

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I just don't understand what good they thought it would do to act as a human shield for, say, a hospital. "Commence the attack on the hospital immediately! No, wait, there's a British citizen acting as a human shield for the hospital! Crap! Wiping out several thousand hospitalized Iraqis is one thing, but killing a British citizen is something else entirely! Scrub the mission!" Am I missing something here?

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IIUC, they could fear massive bombings on Iraqi cities, and maybe even carpet bombings. It is possible they have thought their presence would make the US hesitate to massbomb, to go for precision bombings on military installations.
I don't know any of these guys, but it is plausible they reason like that.

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The amount of ignorance these people have is appalling. Some how I actually think they believed the Allies won wars by bombing hospitals. Maybe now they have a clearer understanding that it is military facilities that get the cruise missiles and not the hospitals that Saddam had been claiming.

It makes you think how nutty some of the other far left ideas are, doesn't it?

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IIUC, they could fear massive bombings on Iraqi cities, and maybe even carpet bombings. It is possible they have thought their presence would make the US hesitate to massbomb, to go for precision bombings on military installations.
I don't know any of these guys, but it is plausible they reason like that.


hi ,

who is going to think about it , ......


bomb them

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All of these people were likely British and American agents.

 
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