03-03-2003 01:47									#1
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it's been done to death, but which are yours?

	03-03-2003 02:24									#2
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I've only played to completion the Microprose one and Harlan's WW2Euro.

	03-03-2003 02:35									#3
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The Third Reich by Mike Jeszenka

Never really got into Second Front by Nemo. Does Red Front count, because that's perhaps my favourite ever scenario?

	03-03-2003 02:55									#4
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quote: Originally posted by fairline The Third Reich by Mike Jeszenka Never really got into Second Front by Nemo. Does Red Front count, because that's perhaps my favourite ever scenario?

I would dearly love to see a European Theatre based Scenario built on similar lines to Red Front.

	04-03-2003 10:58									#5
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Harlan Thompson's WW2 scenario is the best IMO (though Marko's The Struggle For Europe comes a very close second)

	04-03-2003 11:34									#6
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Mike Jezenka's "Final Days" based on the German offensive towards Stalingrad is little known (it's ToT), but an interesting operational type scenario.

	04-03-2003 16:08									#7
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Red front, second front and the Strugle for Europe "TSFE"

	05-03-2003 00:21									#8
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Red Front is my favorite (biased as I was a playtester) followed by all of the TOT ones such as Dictator, Final Days and more that I can't remember right now.
TOT is great with more units and more events, its a shame more people don't play it. TSFE was also very good, but a massive scenario.

	05-03-2003 05:45									#9
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Alex and Nemo's works are all great classics.
Another gem is Mike Jezenka's 'Final Days.'
I also favour Mr Harlan and Marko's superb works.
I was also a big fan of Case's Cruel sea, I and II.

I think it is brilliant that there are so many busy CIV2 mod-makers, keeping the legacy alive!

	05-03-2003 09:02									#10
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Herbstnebel! (Boco disappears in guilt for not giving DV prompt feedback...)

	05-03-2003 20:01									#11
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I'm not a fan of the WW2 genre, but I must say that "Up The Deadly Boot" by John Petroski is a scenario of excellent workmanship. Nemo's "Red Front" and "Second Front" scenarios deserve honourable mention because they're simply well made, but for me, they will never achieve that depth.

	05-03-2003 20:06									#12
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The WW2 scenario that comes with the civ2 game.(Microprose).

Simply put, it is the best.

	05-03-2003 23:57									#13
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quote: The WW2 scenario that comes with the civ2 game.(Microprose). Simply put, it is the best.

I'm curious, why you think that?

	06-03-2003 02:35									#14
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I must say that Red Front is also my favourite WWII scenario. However lets not detract anything from things like Up the Deadly Boot. I bought MGE to play this scenario. Shame about the sound though, i.e there was none as far as I know.

	08-03-2003 16:12									#15
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quote: Originally posted by MagyarCrusader I'm curious, why you think that?

Well for one thing it is extremely balanced. The war in Russia really is a war in Russia, not a 5 turn walk in the park.

And it is copletely playable by all, Axis, allies, Russians.

I find normal civ2 superbly balanced. The fighter planes that scramble have a 50-50 chance to shoot down bombers, the ships have an equal attack and defense and so on.

Excellent scenario.

	08-03-2003 17:22									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos Well for one thing it is extremely balanced.... And it is copletely playable by all, Axis, allies, Russians.... Excellent scenario.

Of course you realize that the designers cheated to make that scenario? The special "WW2-only AI" heading in the scenario options menu was to make the game operate the way they wanted. We have to do things the hard way....

	08-03-2003 20:37									#17
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I wonder if there is a way to create a custom-AI by editing the Civ2.exe file (or whatever they did there). If I knew even the slightest bit about programming, that would have been the first thing I'd have tried out when starting with scenario design.

	08-03-2003 20:45									#18
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But if select it scn maybe crash!?

	10-03-2003 06:19									#19
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Up the deadly boot was a favorite of mine for quite a while. Red Front front had me fearing "recall" to Moscow for more than a few late nights. The Cruel Sea was boatloads of fun

	10-03-2003 20:35									#20
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What exactly does the special WW2 AI? I never understood that...

	10-03-2003 23:32									#21
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I have been playing Civ II for years and following these threads nearly as long and have never seen the answer to your question about the special WW2 AI. I know a lot of scenario designers don't use it even in WWII Europe scenarios. Does anybody know how it differs from the normal (lame) AI?

	11-03-2003 00:14									#22
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Actually i saw in a thread somewhere that makes it harder for the AI to sign peace treaties.

But can not be too sure.

	13-03-2003 19:23									#23
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Question to Programmers - is it possible to add completley new civilizations to the Civ2.exe?

	13-03-2003 23:00									#24
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What do you mean?

If you alter the rules file you can have f.e an Arabs civ, with its own cities, leaders,titles etc.

Also there is a way to interfere with the leader portraits.

Do not know about the animated herald though.

	14-03-2003 13:28									#25
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Whoa! You can add another civ?

Does it replace a civ or actually a whole new one?

	14-03-2003 19:05									#26
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling Whoa! You can add another civ? Does it replace a civ or actually a whole new one?

Replace.