04-03-2003 03:19									#1
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The enemy came on our land. They killed thousands of our citizens. They shot first in an act of war. It was not terrorism, it was an act of war. Once again the sleeping giant has awakened. This time 58 years later when he is much bigger and stronger then ever before. I mean just look at the sheer size of the US striking force which is now in the Persian Gulf region. People I am talking a minimum of 6 aircraft carriers! We are also armed with MOHAB, which for those who do not know is a 20,000lb laser guided bomb. Although not exactly nuclear, it is very similar to a small nuclear bomb. When this bomb is dropped on IRAQ in the beginning of the war it will be downright devastating. Saddam's people are fools for not assasinating him. I guess because of all of the lies he fed his people about how bad the US are. So Mr Saddam, you think we are bad? Well you have not seen anything yet!

	04-03-2003 03:25									#2
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You speak truly.
Something some people tend to overlook.

	04-03-2003 03:29									#3
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I dont know if I should cry or laugh.

	04-03-2003 03:29									#4
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Yamamoto's quote of having awaken a sleeping giant is well put. The world should realize what a US reaction to death on it soil means. They would all be well served to do so.

	04-03-2003 03:31									#5
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius I dont know if I should cry or laugh.

You should do both. A frightening, scary, sad ... and justified reaction to mass murder.

	04-03-2003 03:33									#6
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quote: They

Who?

	04-03-2003 03:34									#7
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Frogger

Beware the ubiquitous THEY.

-Arrian

	04-03-2003 03:36									#8
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hmm yeah I'm scared. I'm scared because I'm as responsible for that mass murder as are the iraqis. Maybe next it's us, the europeans you decide need a little "regime change". After all Mr. Chirac, Schroeder and rest of the europeans havent been licking your ass enough.

	04-03-2003 03:39									#9
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Nobody has bestowed a rating yet, so I'll fill the void:

2/10.

-Arrian

	04-03-2003 03:41									#10
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I think PrinceBimz is auditioning for the news anchor position on FOX.

	04-03-2003 03:53									#11
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The scary they, aka the enemy!!

Prepare to die for your - support - of terrorism, Finland!!!

	04-03-2003 04:01									#12
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Dear prinze

You would be advised to lurk on the iraq and terror related threads awhile before postin.

While I as an American understand the way our outlook has change since 9/11, you must realize that for most non-americans and some AMericans their outlook has not changed. When they see posts like yours their first response is ha - the iraqis arent implicated in 9/11, americans are crazy warmongers, who might attack anywhere. It has therefore been necessary to carefully explain the links between 9/11 and the current situation, from "connect the dot
evidence of Iraqi ties to terrorism (thought not directly to 9/11) to the growing concern about WMD in the hands of this kind of regime, to the huge American stake in changing the status quo in the middle east. Welcome, learn, and i hope you can contribute.

	04-03-2003 04:04									#13
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lotm, you overestimate princebimz.

He's not trying to draw an analogy; he's just plain dumb.

I saw him around before. All of his posts are like this.

	04-03-2003 04:17									#14
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 You should do both. A frightening, scary, sad ... and justified reaction to mass murder.

So if you kill my mother, I am justified in killing some guy who pissed me off 12 years ago as a response? I'll keep that in mind.

	04-03-2003 04:31									#15
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius hmm yeah I'm scared. I'm scared because I'm as responsible for that mass murder as are the iraqis. Maybe next it's us, the europeans you decide need a little "regime change". After all Mr. Chirac, Schroeder and rest of the europeans havent been licking your ass enough.

Regime change in France and Germany....hmmmm

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov So if you kill my mother, I am justified in killing some guy who pissed me off 12 years ago as a response? I'll keep that in mind.

Boris, see LOTM's post above.

BTW, how is mom?

	04-03-2003 04:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Boris, see LOTM's post above.

It didn't explain much of anything, other than the same tired, thin old excuses. Although the part about breaking up the status quo is interesting. Sounds like aggressive imperialism to me!

quote: BTW, how is mom?

Yours or mine?

	04-03-2003 04:55									#18
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I meant yours. Since I haven't seen mine in a few days, you might as well bring up to speed there to.

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Plato :
With your logic, Sept. 11 was a justified reaction to the mass murders in Palestine.

I mean it. Had you been an Arab, you'd have said such nonsense, because it follows exactly the same stupid logic.

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Plato : With your logic, Sept. 11 was a justified reaction to the mass murders in Palestine. I mean it. Had you been an Arab, you'd have said such nonsense, because it follows exactly the same stupid logic.

I stand corrected. I am not unsympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians. Nor am I unsympathetic to the plight of the Israelis(who have been victims of mass murder). To degrade into 1st causes is not a worthwhile exercise.

My point is that the US has a unique opportunity to bring about real change. That opportunity has existed in many ways that the US has not taken advantage of. It, sadly, took the deaths of thousands of Americans to move the country into action.

If the question is :"does 9/11 justify war in Iraq?" then the answer is unequivocally "NO".

If the question is: "Is regime change in Iraq a necessary thing for peace and stability?" along with "Does the US seem more threatened post 9/11" Then I will say that the answers are both "Yes" and they are both related.

BTW Spiffor, I posted a couple of things in the "Iraq agrees to destruction of missles" thread to answer the question you asked me the other day.

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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 I meant yours. Since I haven't seen mine in a few days, you might as well bring up to speed there to.

'Fraid I haven't a clue how your mom is, sorry!

	04-03-2003 06:08									#22
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 BTW Spiffor, I posted a couple of things in the "Iraq agrees to destruction of missles" thread to answer the question you asked me the other day.

Oh, thanks, I'll check it now

	04-03-2003 06:10									#23
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Jees how many self-serving patriotric threads are you going to post PrinceBimz?

I give this tripe a 0 / 10. *yawn*

	04-03-2003 06:12									#24
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That high?

I wouldn't give it half that much!

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PrinceBimz's post here is almost identical to another one.

and i think he's exceeded the limit, hasn't he?

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quote: Originally posted by Frogger lotm, you overestimate princebimz. He's not trying to draw an analogy; he's just plain dumb. I saw him around before. All of his posts are like this.

Most excellent.

	04-03-2003 09:37									#27
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quote: hmm yeah I'm scared. I'm scared because I'm as responsible for that mass murder as are the iraqis. Maybe next it's us, the europeans you decide need a little "regime change". After all Mr. Chirac, Schroeder and rest of the europeans havent been licking your ass enough.

I'll second that one.

Seriously, are these trolls, or is the ordinary american citizen (R) presently as ignorant as this?

3/10.

	04-03-2003 10:18									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu is the ordinary american citizen (R) presently as ignorant as this? 3/10.

	04-03-2003 10:22									#29
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I just notcied this in your sig, Tuome :

quote: I think it's silly, anyone who needs proof [before starting a war] is a Neville Chamberlain kind of guy. -jimmytrick

Impressive

	04-03-2003 10:28									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger quote: They Who?

Those arabs right?

ciaran