05-03-2003 17:03									#1
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quote: 'Far-right' Eurovision singer dropped Belgium's candidate for the Eurovision Song Contest has been deselected after details emerged of her far-right political past. Soetkin Collier is said to have taken part in pro-fascist events including a tribute to Nazi official Rudolf Hess during the 1990s. Belgian state television deselected her after Prime Minister Guy Verhoftstadt was contacted by the country's security services. Ms Collier reportedly acknowledged her past membership of a far-right student group, but denied being close to radical Flemish separatist party the Vlaams Blok. TV officials said they had been unaware of her political leanings. She and her band, Urban Trad, had been picked to represent Belgium at the contest in Latvia in May. Earlier, host city Riga had threatened to slash funding for the show because of a spending row with the Latvian government. But organisers have insisted it will go ahead as planned at the Skonto Hall on 24 May.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertai...dio/2781265.stm

I wonder what greek secret services know about me.... but no, we dont that stuff in Greece! Only in Belgium!

	05-03-2003 18:23									#2
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I knew those S.A.G.A.P.O boys were up to no good!

In Finland, we drop Eurovision candidates for sucking. No, wait, we don't.

	05-03-2003 18:28									#3
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quote: I wonder what greek secret services know about me.... but no, we dont that stuff in Greece!

Why? Are you participating the Neurovision song contest? run for your lives

	05-03-2003 20:52									#4
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Oh no, not another belgian (scandal) thread....

	05-03-2003 20:54									#5
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I believe far-right political beliefs used to be heartily encouraged in Greece.

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Funny how the Belgian state security complains that they don't have enough men and resources to monitor muslimfundamentalists and then wastes its time by engaging in witchhunts against anyone who has ever symphatised with Flemish nationalism...

	05-03-2003 21:25									#7
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The French/Walloon community wanted a French singer this year, because previous year's singer (Sergio) was Dutch/Flemish.
Soetkin Collier was not french enough, so they looked for an excuse to ditch her, and found it.

	05-03-2003 21:27									#8
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quote: Originally posted by August Borms Funny how the Belgian state security complains that they don't have enough men and resources to monitor muslimfundamentalists and then wastes its time by engaging in witchhunts against anyone who has ever symphatised with Flemish nationalism...

They are merely prioritizing thier resources.

	05-03-2003 21:30									#9
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Where's Sandra Kim?

	05-03-2003 21:40									#10
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The Fed's won't tell me what they know about me. I've asked.

	05-03-2003 21:49									#11
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che: What's the fun in having secrets if you blab it to everyone?

	05-03-2003 23:40									#12
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why anyone's political leanings should be a consideration for this sort of thing is quite beyond me...

	05-03-2003 23:48									#13
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The Fed's won't tell me what they know about me. I've asked.

I thought they had to tell you under FOI.

	06-03-2003 00:17									#14
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Che,

What did you do, put in a FOIA request?

-Arrian

	06-03-2003 02:55									#15
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hi ,

and that is what the belgian secret service do , they have nothing better to do , ......

have a nice day

	06-03-2003 02:57									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger I thought they had to tell you under FOI.

Maybe there's nothing to tell? Of course that would be too simple.

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G-man #1: Hey some cretin just asked for our files on him under FOIA. Ever heard of this guy?

G-man #2: Nope. Hmmmm, judging by this rhetoric we'd better add his name to The List. Thank God for the FOIA, our job of finding the paranoid delusionals is so much easier when they volunteer themselves.

	06-03-2003 16:01									#18
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hi ,

the biggest problem with this is the fact that the belgian secret service leaked this info out , ... that goes above the fact that the woman was ever a member of a student organisation with nationalistic feelings , .....

have a nice day

edit ; typo

Last edited by panag on 08-03-2003 at 23:20

	06-03-2003 17:26									#19
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leaked out? no, i think the PM himself spoke publicly about it...

	08-03-2003 23:19									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG leaked out? no, i think the PM himself spoke publicly about it...

hi ,



now there is an investigation about the leak , .....

someone in the belgian secret service leaked the womans file on purpose to the press , ......

and that is very scary !

but yeah , what ya want , .....

belgium is the only country in the world that now has a special deal with the FBI , the fbi shall help all the belgian services , .......

have a nice day

	09-03-2003 00:05									#21
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any (in english) news articles about this?

	09-03-2003 00:24									#22
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG any (in english) news articles about this?

hi ,

there was something in several english newspapers about it ( it even made bbc world ) , but most of the french and flemish newspapers run it , .....

have a nice day