06-03-2003 08:38									#1
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In a rare public appearance, The One of Vox Controli made the following announcement to the nation today. He asked that I share this with the international community.

... BetaHound, Voice of Foreign Affairs, Vox Controli

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The One - speaking from the central balcony of the Palace of the Voice, in Vox Controli (10pm, est, March 5, 1400 BC)

"It is with a heavy heart that I speak to you today. It was not long ago that we undertook our noble initiative in social engineering - the saving of Lux Invicta from extinction. Our intent was indeed both noble and kind-hearted. At considerable risk and expense to ourselves, we 'gifted' a city, renamed Portia, to Lux Invicta, thus allowing them to emigrate their refugees from the continental conflict. That was a conflict which we knew little of, and which we were not part of. We did not, and have not, taken "sides." We, the Voxians, simply did not want to see a civilization exit the world scene this early in our collective history.

It is, therefore, extremely unfortunate that this initiative did not succeed. I could discuss the numerous in's and out's of this complex issue and the resulting problems, but I believe it is sufficient if I say that the situation clearly became untenable for Vox Controli.

I announce to you today that Vox Controli has taken back the city known as Portia. This was not a decison that was taken lightly or easily.

Regrettably, Lux Invicta is no more."

	06-03-2003 09:00									#2
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Wow, this is unexpected news.
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	06-03-2003 10:47									#3
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Wow! Bye-bye Lux

What went wrong?

	06-03-2003 10:48									#4
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Whoah, this is news to me.

edit: Looks like I'm going to be emigrating to a new civ now. Who wants to take me on?

	06-03-2003 11:24									#5
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Amazing stuff

How ironic is it that the TTA (Trash Trip's Ass) had totally nothing to do with their demise, but yet it was 3 other civs who did the dirty work.

Simply stunning. I gotta say though, I believe I saw it coming....

	06-03-2003 11:30									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Wow! Bye-bye Lux What went wrong?

What went right?

	06-03-2003 11:41									#7
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I was referring to the Voxes, not to the Luxes. What went wrong with the city leasing? But I might be interested in hearing that too: what went right?

	06-03-2003 12:11									#8
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OMG!

err wait, I already knew about this

	06-03-2003 14:45									#9
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Vox killed a whole nation!! Murderer!!!

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	06-03-2003 16:00									#10
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That all sound more like a agreement.

Sir Leif

	06-03-2003 16:01									#11
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Genocide. Cool.
j/k

I'm really sorry to see this happen, but such are the rules of the game. It's too bad though, that Vox have thrown Lux the lifeline and yet Lux was ungrateful and uncooperative and gave Vox hell in negotiations. I hate to see Lux go, but I think it's mainly their fault - you can't play several civs against each other forever, especially not when your continued existence depends on one of those civs.

	06-03-2003 16:42									#12
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There is going to be just some magical stories to tell when this game is over.

Actually...I guess we have to decide if its even worth continuing now that Trips ass has been well and truely kicked

Joking aside, I gotta say Lux fought it out to the bitter end, and lasted a lot longer than any of us thought. Although some of their early tactics were questionable, they certainly earned my respect in the end.

I personally would welcome their membership into the GoW team.

	06-03-2003 17:11									#13
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quote: Originally posted by BetaHound This was not a decison that was taken lightly or easily.

Sure...

	06-03-2003 19:14									#14
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quote: I could discuss the numerous in's and out's of this complex issue and the resulting problems, but I believe it is sufficient if I say that the situation clearly became untenable for Vox Controli.

oops...

	06-03-2003 20:08									#15
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I've always susspectet that Lux Invicta would be capable to make "friends" where ever they go. I was right obviously.

	06-03-2003 20:47									#16
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This sucks. I don't think the GoW every killed a single Luxian.

Oh, well. At least the Luxian race can continue on in the form of the one worker that survived.

	06-03-2003 23:14									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Wow! Bye-bye Lux What went wrong?

Trusting a certain head of state would be my guess....

E_T

	06-03-2003 23:19									#18
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no genocide was performed. I can't get into the deatails, but we did not murder their people. We just removed their goverment.

	06-03-2003 23:49									#19
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Most of the citizens of Portia were Voxians by heritage. We simply responded to their pleas to be restored as members of The_One.

	07-03-2003 00:29									#20
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You mean that they were re-assimilated back into your culture. You could have rebuffed their request.

The choice you made was not within the dictates of the offer that was made. It's like the government saying "We're not responsible for the choices our people make."

	07-03-2003 00:46									#21
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Sounds like a set-up to me. Lux paid you, then you wiped them out. Is that what really happened?

	07-03-2003 01:58									#22
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No

there was a lot of effort on our part to keep with the deal

however, while trip and company were following the letter, they were not following the spirit

I think that the ammount of gold we gained, more than is made up for by the loses we suffered diplomatically on all fronts

Jon Miller

	07-03-2003 03:02									#23
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Sharing some of that gold around would certainly help on the diplomatic front.

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quote: Originally posted by bigfree1 You mean that they were re-assimilated back into your culture. You could have rebuffed their request.

bf1, you can't get a capital in a cultural flip, no matter how many Voxians there were in Portia, there was only one possibility for it to change allegiance: by conquest.

DeepO

	07-03-2003 04:59									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel Sharing some of that gold around would certainly help on the diplomatic front.

indeed it would

	07-03-2003 06:38									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel Sharing some of that gold around would certainly help on the diplomatic front.

Some sharing has already occured.

Jon Miller

	07-03-2003 06:48									#27
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We haven't seen any of that "sharing"....

E_T

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I think that the ammount of gold we gained, more than is made up for by the loses we suffered diplomatically on all fronts

if it wasn't a deliberate choice, I might feel sorry for you there

	07-03-2003 07:19									#29
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it didn't turn out who we would have liked

that has already been stated

Jon Miller

	07-03-2003 07:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by E_T We haven't seen any of that "sharing".... E_T

The GoW cheque must also me in the mail.
(Or attached to a pigeon leg)