06-03-2003 20:05									#1
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Greek man in court on terror charges

A Greek man was remanded in custody when he appeared in court on charges under the Terrorism Act.
Charalumvos Dousemetzis, 25, a former student at Northumbria University, Newcastle, was arrested by officers at an address in the Heaton area of the city on February 25.

Dousemetzis, who has lived in Britain for the past eight years, is accused of possessing articles which may be used in connection with the instigation, preparation or commission of an act of terrorism.

He was charged on Monday with two offences under section 57 of the Terrorism Act 2000.

He was remanded in custody until 11 March when he appeared before Bedlington magistrates on Tuesday.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2822511.stm



So this is necessairily from an english source so you understand.

Some more information.

Apparently this student was preparing a PhD on terrorism in Greece.

That's the material they're talking about

But his real crime it would seem is posting on a site that the real terrorists are the Americans and he also congratulated in a web site 17N.

So expression of opinion is now a criminal offence in Great Britain.


Good to know

	06-03-2003 20:09									#2
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He is being charged with an offence, which means they won't be able to tell us what the evidence is aginst him until the trial, so how you know what he has done is beyond me

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The prevention of terrorism act does give the police some pretty draconian powers.

	06-03-2003 20:13									#5
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I would guess, that they have arrested him following intelligence received from the Greeks, I can't believe our intelligence services would waste too much time on this man unless asked to

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I doubt it either. Too expensive.

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The Greek consulate wasn't even informed about his arrest. What a load of crap police state you got there.
Criminilization of thought, way to go. The Greek embassy has demanded to be given information about this case.

Your terrorism laws would be silly if they weren't so fascist.

	06-03-2003 20:18									#8
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH The prevention of terrorism act does give the police some pretty draconian powers.

It's very sad to see it happen here.

	06-03-2003 20:19									#9
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Hey... tone it down. If you want to troll, fine. If you want to rant... take it somewhere else.

	06-03-2003 20:19									#10
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Were you that sensitive Ming when there were tons of trolls thrown at Greece about the plane spotter case?

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The Greek consulate wasn't even informed about his arrest. What a load of crap police state you got there. Criminilization of thought, way to go.

It's only a police state if you're foreign, of course.

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If teh greeks told us about him then they would already know.

If they haven't done the arrest correctly he can sue the police( this happens all the time and in our repressive police state they have to pay out all the time)

He can't be held indefinatley and he will be releaed or tried or deported, I know you hate the UK but our legal sytem is reasonably fair

	06-03-2003 20:21									#13
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Well if it turns out to be a shambles like the trainspooters case I will be the 1st to condem it

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I don't hate the UK but your system is crap and would be hilarious if it wasn't so damn fascist.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Were you that sensitive Ming when there were tons of trolls thrown at Greece about the plane spotter case?

Those plane-spotters should have been locked up, anybody who uses their leisure time to travel thousands of miles for the sole purpose of taking pictures of aircraft is so monumentally tedious that they deserve to be expunged from humanity.

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Planespotters were not a shamble whatever that means.
Keep it on topic.

	06-03-2003 20:23									#17
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Yep, police authority in Britain has always been rather frightening ever since the initial terrorism acts in response to the IRA. Almost as bad as in the US after the Patriot Act.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Were you that sensitive Ming when there were tons of trolls thrown at Greece about the plane spotter case?

And people piss all over the US too... your point.

If you want to troll fine... just tone it down or this is toast.

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Pathetic absolutely pathetic and undemocratic as hell to say nothing about ineffective and damn hilarious if that was a joke.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Planespotters were not a shamble whatever that means. Keep it on topic.

You mentioned them, that whole affair was shambolic and it made your judicial system look a litteel chaotic.

As for a facist state, you have either forgotten your own countries recent history which would show what a facist state really is like or you are as ever trolling.

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Britain certainly didn't seem like a police state last year when I lived in that council housing project in Southampton where the 16-year-old kids owned the streets and the police were too scared to come and do anything about it when we were getting beaten up.

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As said that would be just hilarious IF it was a joke

So anyone who says Americans are terrorists is to be arrested in Britain from now on?

Might as well arrest half the planet.


What is absolutely fascistic is the criminilization of opinions that seem to be in full swing in Britain.

You seem to have become America

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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Yep, police authority in Britain has always been rather frightening ever since the initial terrorism acts in response to the IRA. Almost as bad as in the US after the Patriot Act.

Police authority in the UK is very tightly controlled since several appaling miscarriages of justice in the 70's and 80's.

There are very strict limits on how long you can be held before charge

	06-03-2003 20:31									#24
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How does the arrest of man prove that the UK is undemocratic. If information is available that people might be aiding terrorism do we let them carry on becasue they are Greek academics. If the decison to arrest was wrong then there should be an inquiry and apologies and compensation

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Why wasn't the Greek consulate informed about his arrest on 25 of February and why wasn't his family notified too?

What are the charges against him and for what was he arrested?

Nice rule of law you got.

	06-03-2003 20:33									#26
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I'm shocked to see Zorba against this after Greece's appalling response to the plane spotter's case. He should be cheering the crown on.

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quote: So anyone who says Americans are terrorists is to be arrested in Britain from now on?

Please offer some proof that that's what happened?

A guy I used to share a house with was a press photographer and he said that the rumour in the press corps was that the head of that aeroplane photographer group was actually a real spy anyway.

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And where are you Ming now about DinoDoc's troll?

	06-03-2003 20:35									#29
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Why wasn't the Greek consulate informed about his arrest on 25 of February and why wasn't his family notified too? What are the charges against him and for what was he arrested? Nice rule of law you got.

Someone probably ****ed up, has that never happened in Greece.

It seems he has been charged unedr the terrorism act 2000, there don't appear to be other details on the link

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Truth isn't a troll.