07-03-2003 08:37									#1
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After all, he is the most powerful pres.
And his decisions affect the lives of people all over the world.
Why can’t the rest of the world have some kind of "voting power" on the final outcome of the US pres. elections?
Give me your thoughts.

	07-03-2003 08:39									#2
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Are they willing to ceede sovereignty to us? If not, no thanks.

	07-03-2003 08:40									#3
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Are they willing to ceede sovereignty to us? If not, no thanks.

I'd take a One World Government based on 1 man 1 vote.

I doubt you'd like it, though.

	07-03-2003 08:40									#4
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You can even call it the US if you want to.

	07-03-2003 08:43									#5
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They already had. Us is the major power around
. . .
I ask: Why dont allow people to vote?
You can go to a US embassy, and declare that you want to became an alien voter. They register you. And that's all.

And Alien votes should be equal to US citizens votes?
Or 10 alien votes = 1 US vote?

	07-03-2003 08:43									#6
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Are they willing to ceede sovereignty to us? If not, no thanks.

I doubt that you want us to have a say in your internal policies.

	07-03-2003 08:47									#7
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quote: Originally posted by carnide_ They already had. Us is the major power around

Sorry. Not the same.

	07-03-2003 09:03									#8
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I'd be all for it if we can make all other countries territories.

	07-03-2003 09:09									#9
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Why not just call the new country PRC and be done with it?
After all, they easily outnumber Americans and hence have a much greater "voice".

	07-03-2003 09:09									#10
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Feel free to send non-voting delegates to our House. We'll take you in then.

Oh, even better idea. Let them vote in Presidential elections, but give the rest of the world only three electors, like DC. They can learn a valuable lesson about American style democracy.

	07-03-2003 09:15									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Why not just call the new country PRC and be done with it? After all, they easily outnumber Americans and hence have a much greater "voice".

Yeah, but the combined number of Christians outnumbers us

	07-03-2003 09:23									#12
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With the laxness of the US Immigration beurocracy they muight as well.

	07-03-2003 09:33									#13
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the decisions of kim jong il, leader of nkorea, have major effects on the nations of: skorea, japan, china, russia, and the us.

unfortunately, none of us are privy to electing him.

why should the us be any different?

	07-03-2003 09:44									#14
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bah pitch in w/taxes, and you can have as much as you want

	07-03-2003 09:59									#15
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No.

	07-03-2003 10:00									#16
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If you want to vote in US elections, give up your citizenship and become a citizen of the US. Otherwise, we don't care who you want to vote for, it doesn't count or matter

	07-03-2003 10:05									#17
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This is an interesting idea. Other than foriegn policy (which would not exist in a one world government), what would you change about how the US does business if you could vote?

	07-03-2003 10:12									#18
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I say, if Europe or anyone else wants more say. Europe needs to engage us a little more instead of spelling out opposition to war in a series of grunts only cavemen could understand. How about Chirac come to washington, talk about things. Bring up alternatives, instead of the same old....same old. And lets also stop comparing bush to hitler

I mean..there not giving reasons. There throwing out phrases like "Inspections, not war". And we have only told them Inspections arent working about 10 times, not only that Colin Powell showed them. Yet still....

I guess its easier to remain belligerent than admit that you made a mistake.

	07-03-2003 10:20									#19
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 This is an interesting idea. Other than foriegn policy (which would not exist in a one world government), what would you change about how the US does business if you could vote?

Socialised health care, publically funded higher education, better enviro standards, more money for the world's poor....

	07-03-2003 10:43									#20
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quote: Oh, even better idea. Let them vote in Presidential elections, but give the rest of the world only three electors, like DC. They can learn a valuable lesson about American style democracy.

1 for non US America, 1 for Nato countries, and one for the rest of the world?

	07-03-2003 10:43									#21
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Cut military spending, remove that ridiculous Missile Shield, remove corporate welfare, remove farm subsidies, kill off *cough* Homeland Security *cough*, increase NASA funding massively, revamp the patent process, outlaw patenting "intellectual property," remove DMCA, restore copyrights to 15 years, tighten anti-trust laws.

	07-03-2003 10:46									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Socialised health care, publically funded higher education, better enviro standards, more money for the world's poor....

Excellent ideas. With 300 billion in defense funds from the US alone, these ideas could very realistically come to pass. The only modification I would make is:

More opportunity for the poor, not just more money.

	07-03-2003 10:49									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Cut military spending, remove that ridiculous Missile Shield, remove corporate welfare, remove farm subsidies, kill off *cough* Homeland Security *cough*, increase NASA funding massively, revamp the patent process, outlaw patenting "intellectual property," remove DMCA, restore copyrights to 15 years, tighten anti-trust laws.

UR: In a one world democratic gov't we would not need military spending, missle shields, or homeland security. I do like the NASA idea very much.

	07-03-2003 12:10									#24
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err the election is more than a year off btw

	08-03-2003 02:21									#25
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Good point Plato.


FYI, UR the Missile shield will work. And as for subsidies, everybodies doing it!

	08-03-2003 02:35									#26
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No representation without taxation!

	08-03-2003 04:58									#27
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Most certainly not.

I wouldn't object to US states seceding and joining the Canadian confederation though. Our parliamentary system is superior to that of the US in every way anyway.

	08-03-2003 11:39									#28
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i doubt it. from what it sounds like, your canadian politicians sound just as bad as our american ones.

	08-03-2003 12:26									#29
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Well, sure, just as soon as we can vote in Iraqi elections.

	08-03-2003 22:50									#30
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i doubt it. from what it sounds like, your canadian politicians sound just as bad as our american ones.

Not really. Only Brian Mulroney came close.