08-03-2003 07:20									#31
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speer, check your pms

	08-03-2003 07:23									#32
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You should leave it just the way it is Siro. Even with the grammar mistakes. In fact, those mistakes made the story even more touching, it wasn't written by a professional writer, but by somebdoy that had a story to tell.

	08-03-2003 07:25									#33
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btw, please edit your posts to remove nasty remarks.

i know it's "awkward" but i don't want this thread to recieve bad karma. threads with bad karma are not nice to read or post in.


btw, i'm half-amused half-sad. I wanted to put a picture of Liz as an avatar, but i couldn't find one, so I put up an otter instead.

speaking of which, i'm not that of a close person to liz. as i said, i only exchanged words with her several times, never deeply. i just wanted to share a story.

i feel fake when people tell me they are sorry for my loss, since i didn't really know her. :/

	08-03-2003 07:29									#34
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quote: You should leave it just the way it is Siro. Even with the grammar mistakes. In fact, those mistakes made the story even more touching, it wasn't written by a professional writer, but by somebdoy that had a story to tell.

more likely by someone who didn't get enough sleep

i tend to think of both my english and my writing skills as high, and i don't like spelling and grammar mistakes, though recently i tend to ignore those (bad poly-habit )

i also am quite perfectionistic, but on the other hand, i prefer to keep things in their "raw" state.

i think i just might send out a fixed version to some newspaper hoping it would accept me. *continues to dream of a journalistic career*

	08-03-2003 07:31									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov i think i just might send out a fixed version to some newspaper hoping it would accept me. *continues to dream of a journalistic career*

That also, would be a good idea.

	08-03-2003 07:52									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov speaking of which, i'm not that of a close person to liz. as i said, i only exchanged words with her several times, never deeply. i just wanted to share a story. i feel fake when people tell me they are sorry for my loss, since i didn't really know her. :/

You are close to people that knew her better, right? Perhaps that is where your efforts should be focused. On those you do know well that may have been devasted by her death. And besides, without you her story would not have been posted here and we would have never known. That in of itself is enough I think.

	08-03-2003 11:44									#37
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you'd think people would stop caring. people die all the time, every day.

then it's someone you know, and pff... reason stops working, y'know?

sometimes it's hard to say whether we'd all be better off dead, or trying to be happy for those who aren't with us. sometimes it's just hard.

	08-03-2003 12:11									#38
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Extraordinary post, Siro.

	08-03-2003 14:19									#39
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Good post.

We are all already used to this, until it hits close to home.

	08-03-2003 17:36									#40
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Siro, lots of strength to you.

	08-03-2003 19:38									#41
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Well, what can I say?

All we can do is have hope for the future or kill ourselves.

Here's to hope and remembrance.

	09-03-2003 02:32									#42
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Thanks people

I'm just trying to promote understanding.

I know our region in the world is easy not to care about. "Just let them all kill each other" people sometimes say.

The point is that there has to be a solution, which both sides won't like, but order and peace must be restored.

If we are let fighting without allowing any side to take decisive victory, the killing will just go on.

	09-03-2003 02:42									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov Thanks people I'm just trying to promote understanding. I know our region in the world is easy not to care about. "Just let them all kill each other" people sometimes say.

I don't know if this is going to help you, but I care about Israel every day (BTW, I also feel sorry for palestian victims, but this is not the topic of the thread)

	09-03-2003 03:29									#44
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	09-03-2003 03:41									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov Everytime you send a euro to Israel, an Israeli boy gets ice-cream

I don't work yet, so I've not money to help you with, but I always try to convince my friends that Israel isn't as bad as they believe

	09-03-2003 04:14									#46
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It's a bad picture that had waay to much contrast, so I fixed it as much as I could.

It also captured her face in the middle of singing, so her expression doesn't do justice to her pretty face.


But it's all there is. *sigh*


Elizabeth Katzman
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	09-03-2003 06:45									#47
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a beautiful post, sirotnikov

	09-03-2003 09:38									#48
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Very touching, I hope that articles such as this have us all pause and rethink why Fighting and War and Terrorism and Killing takes place.

My Prayers are without proper words to express sorrowful feeling that you must be feeling.

May the Prince of Peace and Lord of Lords shine his Radiance of Love in the inner most Painful parts of your heart and Soul!

May God Bless your pathway!

Grandpa Troll

	09-03-2003 09:53									#49
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quote: i also am quite perfectionistic, but on the other hand, i prefer to keep things in their "raw" state.

Siro:

That's the conflict... If you want to tidy up some of the sentences, then do so, otherwise leave this well alone.

A good edit will retain the best portions while smoothing some of the rough spots.

	09-03-2003 12:49									#50
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That was beautiful, Siro. Thanks for sharing that with us.

	09-03-2003 13:51									#51
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I'm really sorry to hear this, guy...

My highschool just lost a girl due to drunk driving a few weeks ago, actually. Terrible stuff.

	09-03-2003 17:09									#52
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Sorry to hear about this loss of life. These are very sad times for both israelis and palestinians. My sympathies Siro

	09-03-2003 17:43									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov And then the Skies Wept…

...about all this crappy hypocrisy.

Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

	09-03-2003 17:45									#54
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CT, have you ever shown one iota of sympathy for anyone involved in the ME?

	09-03-2003 17:46									#55
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quote: Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

Wanna bet?

	09-03-2003 18:11									#56
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Let's hope the violence ends... sometime, ever.

...was the play really going to be called "Best of Fiends"?

	09-03-2003 18:24									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune ...about all this crappy hypocrisy. Tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands Iraqi casualties expected...

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And even if this becomes true does it mean noone can post a personal story about a victim he knew??? Big nonsense.

	09-03-2003 19:07									#58
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quote: ...about all this crappy hypocrisy.

SHAMEFUL post of yours CT


Siro- sorry

	09-03-2003 19:45									#59
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro ´And even if this becomes true does it mean noone can post a personal story about a victim he knew??? Big nonsense.

Siro can certainly post anything he wants, just as I can comment on it.

However, this victimization game is blatant propaganda, and not even very good one. We all know -or should know!-, what is to blame for the violence.

	09-03-2003 19:55									#60
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So when terrorists blow up an Israeli bus, we should blame the Israelis right?

Sounds great