08-03-2003 20:00									#1
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The 3 part 6 hour one coming on the sci-fi channel starting next sunday, how awsome will it be?

	08-03-2003 20:11									#2
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I predict it will be alot better than sodomy, though I never tried it. Just the idea...:barf:

	08-03-2003 20:21									#3
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They already showed it once. I'll say this for it -- it was better than the Sting movie.

	08-03-2003 20:37									#4
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It's not new, it's even on video, has been for a long time.


Pros:
It's longer and epic. You don't have to look at Sting in a thong. There is no 'Battle Carousel' thingy for the Emperor.

Cons:
The costuming department was on drugs. The new Leto Atredies is awful. The old Baron, and the old Giedi Prime, was a lot more awful and beastly. The new Harkonnens are too cuddly.

It's less psychedelic. The motivations are more straigthforward, liberate the people, black and white. The don't delve too far into the direction of Paul's increasing inhumanness, or the ecology of Dune, or the brutal lifestyle of the Fremen. In the movie, the Fremen are just simple desert warriors oppressed by bad guy.


In conclusion, sometimes saying less is more. I felt the original was more blurry-edged, more 'Herberty'.

Of course, neither really captured the book, with its religious speculations.

	08-03-2003 20:39									#5
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I hope it's not as campy as the first Dune miniseries.

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The original dune movie was great for me visually, (almost perfect IMHO). But the novel's plot was so hacked up that it was virtually impossible to follow if you hadn't read the book.

The mini-series is the other way around. It follows the book much better, but the whole look and color scheme is too stark and underwhelming

	08-03-2003 20:56									#7
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I think Vesayen is talking about the new "Children of Dune" miniseries that is coming out. It covers the second dune book.

	08-03-2003 20:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DetroitDave The original dune movie was great for me visually, (almost perfect IMHO). But the novel's plot was so hacked up that it was virtually impossible to follow if you hadn't read the book. The mini-series is the other way around. It follows the book much better, but the whole look and color scheme is too stark and underwhelming

I agree with you perfectly. If you could combine the two, it would be the perfect Dune movie.

	08-03-2003 21:07									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker It's not new, it's even on video, has been for a long time. Pros: It's longer and epic. You don't have to look at Sting in a thong. There is no 'Battle Carousel' thingy for the Emperor. Cons: The costuming department was on drugs. The new Leto Atredies is awful. The old Baron, and the old Giedi Prime, was a lot more awful and beastly. The new Harkonnens are too cuddly. It's less psychedelic. The motivations are more straigthforward, liberate the people, black and white. The don't delve too far into the direction of Paul's increasing inhumanness, or the ecology of Dune, or the brutal lifestyle of the Fremen. In the movie, the Fremen are just simple desert warriors oppressed by bad guy. In conclusion, sometimes saying less is more. I felt the original was more blurry-edged, more 'Herberty'. Of course, neither really captured the book, with its religious speculations.

No, the scifi channel made a movie on the dune book 2 years ago, NEXT WEEK a NEW MOVIE based on Children of Dune is coming out on the sci-fi channel.

	08-03-2003 22:25									#10
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Err...what happened to "Dune Messiah"? Or are they combining the two?

	08-03-2003 22:30									#11
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I think they are combining em.

	08-03-2003 22:34									#12
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If it's as bad as the last Dune mini-series, I'm won't upset that I don't have cable. Poor acting ruined it. Again, as with David Lynch's movie, the only redeeming factor in the show was the actor for Baron Harkonnen character.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara If it's as bad as the last Dune mini-series, I'm won't upset that I don't have cable. Poor acting ruined it. Again, as with David Lynch's movie, the only redeeming factor in the show was the actor for Baron Harkonnen character.

As bad as the Dune mini was, although I must give them an "A" for effort, I thought the Baron Harkonnen they used was particularly bad. Too campy over-the-top.

I seem to remember him looking into the camera and spouting Shakespeare or something similar at the end of all his scenes, with his nephews campily brooding in the background. Just bad.

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	08-03-2003 22:59									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 I thought the Baron Harkonnen . . . was . . . [t]oo campy over-the-top.

He's supposed to be. That's how he's written. He's a homocidal clown.

	08-03-2003 23:03									#16
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I just think they showed excellent judgement by skipping right past Dune Mesiah

I look forward to the new mini series.

	08-03-2003 23:03									#17
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Bah, they are going to go with simulated nudity again and they'll probably drop Alia's nude sword practices.

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	08-03-2003 23:10									#18
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo they'll probably drop Alia's nude sword practices.

What?

* DinoDoc reminds self that he really needs to read Dune

	08-03-2003 23:44									#19
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DD

never read the damn book(s).

	09-03-2003 00:27									#20
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Dune was always mediocre. I'll still be watching though.

	09-03-2003 01:03									#21
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quote: I just think they showed excellent judgement by skipping right past Dune Mesiah

Dune Messiah wasn't that bad. Not as good as Dune, certainly, but it had its moments.