09-03-2003 10:20									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Peacemaker No this as will no make anyone "fell the urge." Both sex and violence are basic human urges that thrive with or without a stimulant. If ads like this make people act in a certian way, if we start runnig more ads for going to church and living a "moral" life would we have a sudden rush on all the local churchs? I don't think so.

Actually this ad did lead to a very explicit conversation with a girl I know. It wouldn't have happened otherwise.

	09-03-2003 10:22									#92
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I agree with Calc in that this could run. I go further though and say that this is no different than an ad for Tomb Raider or DOA: Extreme Beach Volleyball - or even an underwear or jeans ad.

The advertiser knows that not only is this "on the edge" but plans for it. They want guys to be interested in the ad and by making it controversial they can get extra "free" media exposure. You yourself Ted and Drose have (maybe unwittingly) brought more attention to this topic and therefore invited more people to examine said ad.

	09-03-2003 10:23									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Actually this ad did lead to a very explicit conversation with a girl I know. It wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Did you offer her a puma?

	09-03-2003 10:24									#94
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*DRoseDARs reaches for another asprin...and a third "just in case..."*

God, two versions of the Puma ad in question?

*Sigh...pops the third asprin...*

	09-03-2003 10:25									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 I like the blue one better.

where do you get these?

	09-03-2003 10:26									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Peacemaker No this as will no make anyone "fell the urge." Both sex and violence are basic human urges that thrive with or without a stimulant. If ads like this make people act in a certian way, if we start runnig more ads for going to church and living a "moral" life would we have a sudden rush on all the local churchs? I don't think so.

What world are YOU living in?

How many people started saying, "WHAAAAZZZZZZZUP" after the beer ad was run?

How many kids have wanted to "be like Mike?"

How many white kids in the suburbs started acting like g's after watching thugs on the videos?

How many kids went to school the next day after watching power rangers and started doing roundhouse kicks?

How many people have fantasized taking a last second shot after watching basketball on tv?

How many kids have hurt themselves after emulating the stunts on Jackass?

How many women EXPECT a diamond ring for marriage after DeBeer's started an ad campaign that featured diamond rings? (answer: the entire western world since the 1920's)

How many times have people gone to eat somewhere after seeing an ad on tv for a restaurant? (answer: BILLIONS served)

How many guys wanted to get buffed out like Stallone and Ahhhnold after watching them in the movies?

How many kids wanted to grow up and be fighter pilots after watching Top Gun?

It's nice to THINK we are above the messages in ads, but in truth, our entire society is interwined with advertising. NOBODY is above it.

Companies wouldn't spend BILLIONS of dollars on advertising if it didn't alter the way people behave. That's just common sense. Sorry.

	09-03-2003 10:28									#97
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quote: Originally posted by MacTBone I agree with Calc in that this could run. I go further though and say that this is no different than an ad for Tomb Raider or DOA: Extreme Beach Volleyball - or even an underwear or jeans ad. The advertiser knows that not only is this "on the edge" but plans for it. They want guys to be interested in the ad and by making it controversial they can get extra "free" media exposure. You yourself Ted and Drose have (maybe unwittingly) brought more attention to this topic and therefore invited more people to examine said ad.

I agree. Christina Aguilara's little whore video did the same thing.

Still doesn't make it right though.

	09-03-2003 10:28									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II Did you offer her a puma?

No, but it led to us talking about things like her tightness, my size, and even Hot Action Cop's "Fever for the Flava"

	09-03-2003 10:28									#99
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quote: Originally posted by jdd2007 where do you get these?

I did a google on "puma ad semen" and this was the first link.


http://www.yayhooray.com/thread/16260.html

	09-03-2003 10:31									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker How many people have fantasized taking a last second shot after watching basketball on tv?

So that's what the guy in the ad is doing? That explains everything.

	09-03-2003 10:33									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Still doesn't make it right though.

Perhaps. That differs from individual and I wasnt interested in discussing whether its right or not in this thread.

So I hope all you people that have argues agst me got this one cleared in case they havent yet.

	09-03-2003 10:34									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse No, but it led to us talking about things like her tightness, my size, and even Hot Action Cop's "Fever for the Flava"

good lookin, goooood lookin..

	09-03-2003 10:34									#103
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I searched "Puma ad sex" and came up with this legit site - http://ad-rag.com/102946.php

	09-03-2003 10:34									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Peacemaker Yes I have and this ad is like throwing a gallon of gas on a 200 acre forrest fire.

This is the "snowflake" argument: no one snowflake matters in a blizzard. If so, you would have no objection to running a hundred, or thousand, or million more ads like this?

quote: Originally posted by MacTBoneThe advertiser knows that not only is this "on the edge" but plans for it. They want guys (my emphasis) to be interested in the ad and by making it controversial they can get extra "free" media exposure.

Interesting that we have yet to hear from any women or parents of teenagers. (MtG, Ming, RAH, this means you ) I suspect women and parents of teenagers might have a much different view, perhaps enough that this advertising tactic would backfire.

	09-03-2003 10:35									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Static23 So that's what the guy in the ad is doing? That explains everything.

Pretty good.

	09-03-2003 10:37									#106
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Ted can you tell me one time in the history of the world where people did not have sex.

People will have sex with or without the media throwing it in our faces. Yes people are influnced by what they see on ads, but they will have sex no matter what.


The human race have been having sex since we evolved from apes and nothing can stop that.

	09-03-2003 10:37									#107
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Well, Calc, it's been fun, but I really AM developing a headache (not from this thread, I get them semi-frequently) so I just can't maintain the argumentative stance any longer tonight. I could continue this discussion, but my brain can't take the weight of heady subjects under such conditions.

	09-03-2003 10:39									#108
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Fox News did a piece too. Apparently that Jenna Jameson's knee.

	09-03-2003 10:39									#109
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quote: Originally posted by Adam Smith Interesting that we have yet to hear from any women or parents of teenagers. (MtG, Ming, RAH, this means you ) I suspect women and parents of teenagers might have a much different view, perhaps enough that this advertising tactic would backfire.

If you read my previous post, at least one girl I know wasn't offended by this ad. She is on the innocent side too. Heck, mine is the only one she has seen of a guy she has talked to. She is in college too.

	09-03-2003 10:40									#110
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Leave it to Fox to do an "in-depth" report...

	09-03-2003 10:43									#111
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs Leave it to Fox to do an "in-depth" report...

You're luck, it's an O'Reilly Talking Points memo to boot.

http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79542,00.html

Edit: Forgot to post like a SECOND time.

	09-03-2003 10:43									#112
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Who cares about the ad, Mactbone's avatar is making me think about sex.

	09-03-2003 10:45									#113
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And I can't believe he calls Jenna Jameson a "quasi-prostitute". That O'Rielly is a b@$+@rd.

	09-03-2003 10:45									#114
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damn straight thats one sexy puppet.... and its got real good rhythm to that hip of his.

	09-03-2003 10:46									#115
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quote: Originally posted by Peacemaker Who cares about the ad, Mactbone's avatar is making me think about sex.

That thing on the back of Grr's head is lookin' MIGHTY...*sigh*...nevermind.

	09-03-2003 10:46									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Peacemaker Ted can you tell me one time in the history of the world where people did not have sex. People will have sex with or without the media throwing it in our faces. Yes people are influnced by what they see on ads, but they will have sex no matter what. The human race have been having sex since we evolved from apes and nothing can stop that.

Well no sh1t Sherlock but it's all about the degree of actions and the consequences associated with those actions.

People have been killing each other since the dawn of time too but there are things called crime waves.

	09-03-2003 10:47									#117
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Now excuse me, Im gonna sleep so that I can wake up early to buy puma first thing in the morning.

quote: Who cares about the ad, Mactbone's avatar is making me think about sex.

BTW, nobody better be beating off to my avatar. Yoshimitsu is for me and for me only. I know you guys can be turned on by a sexy masked kabuki samurai, but do try to refrain urself.

	09-03-2003 10:48									#118
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He's also never seen the ad.

He repeatedly mentions porn stars pushing products when this ad makes no mention of porn stars - they only reason we know anything about the woman is through the articles online talking about it.

	09-03-2003 10:52									#119
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(Why can't I leave this thread gracefully while I'm in pain...?)

Mac, on that point (porn stars) I could care less who's in the ad...well, that's is to say "which adults" are in the ad...it's what they're doing or how much of their body they're showing. I didn't see that particular airing of the O'Reily Factor, so I havn't a clue what was said by whom...but I can guess.

Calc, just be sure they're a clean pair, sans "unidentified globs of white stuff."

	09-03-2003 10:53									#120
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Well after taking one more look at the ad I going to leave and go have sex