11-03-2003 14:29									#1
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I have made a scenario based on the current world situation focusing on Iraq. The turn order is as follows:

Rogues (Iraq, North Korea, Taiwan, Cuba, etc)- Darius
Americans (America, Israel, Kuwait, Japan, etc) - Pap
Coalition (Britain, Italy, Spain, etc) - H Tower
CIS (Russia, Ukraine, etc) - FiGu
PRC (China) - Nibble
Muslim Nations (Arab countries, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc) - Insane Badger
UN Supporters (France, Germany, etc) - Choke

I'm playing the UN.

the files are below

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	11-03-2003 14:29									#2
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	11-03-2003 14:31									#3
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	11-03-2003 14:32									#4
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four, odd order, I know

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	12-03-2003 00:41									#6
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Ok, here's the map:

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Last edited by Darius871 on 12-03-2003 at 03:25

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And the bitmap so that people can edit:

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	12-03-2003 00:54									#8
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i'm interested in taking the coalition. let me go look at the game first though

	12-03-2003 01:25									#9
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This Scenario looks great!
I can take The CIS.

Last edited by FiGu on 12-03-2003 at 01:39

	12-03-2003 01:48									#10
	couple quick thoughts after looking at the coalition Full PM-box? Change here!

they don't start out with any challenger mbt's?
several cities went into disorder immediately
and an infantry in gibraltar was disbanded because of a shortage in resources
birmingham had already completed the airport it was building
Gibralatar is an island?
Why are Brisbane, Australia and Lisbon, Portugal building T90 MBTs?
Maybe there could be a paratrooper unit in Ireland to deal with the catholic/protestant problem?
how come I can't build regular infantry except in Dublin, only Nato Inf?

Expanded comments:
The US doesn't get a navy in the atlantic ocean?
What about US forces deployed in Germany that have been earmarked for deployment to Iraq?
Why is the rogue leaders name Fidel Castro and not Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong Il?
Libya was named as part of the axis of evil by bush a while ago, how come they aren't a rogue nation?
The Maerican F22 raptor isn't currently in service wtih frontline units yet, but you have it placed all around the globe.
A-10 Warthogs do NOT fly off carrier decks
From looking in the city build list this is a total war scenario, i saw no freights available to build, and capitalization is not an option either so it's only military units to create

Graphics:
I don't like the F-18 graphic or the F-22 graphic
link to an F-18 graphic: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...6630#post496630
still trying to find a pic of an F-22 for you

EDIT: reading this again my comments might seem a little bit harsh, but they aren't meant to be. I'll definitely take teh coalition now

	12-03-2003 02:41									#11
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hehe, thank you for your criticisms they are more helpful than hurtful, there was a problem with the unit shields which I've fixed, and well this is my first scenario so there are bound to be some bugs.

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	12-03-2003 02:47									#12
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower Libya was named as part of the axis of evil by bush a while ago, how come they aren't a rogue nation?

No they weren't, it was just Iraq, Iran, and NK.

	12-03-2003 02:49									#13
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I've discovered some other dumb bugs, I'm fixing some of them now.

	12-03-2003 03:07									#14
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they don't start out with any challenger mbt's?

I've fixed that now

several cities went into disorder immediately

good, the people in the Coalition don't want to go to war

and an infantry in gibraltar was disbanded because of a shortage in resources

fixed

birmingham had already completed the airport it was building

hmm, oh well

Gibralatar is an island?

yes, in fact it is try walking to Gibraltar from Spain

Why are Brisbane, Australia and Lisbon, Portugal building T90 MBTs?

fixed

Maybe there could be a paratrooper unit in Ireland to deal with the catholic/protestant problem?

hmm, well seeing as Ireland is part of the Coalition, there wouldn't be too much point

how come I can't build regular infantry except in Dublin, only Nato Inf?

because regular inf is for countries that have basic military like the Muslims, and Rogues but Dublin is a country with a sort of basic military that happens to be part of the Coalition

The US doesn't get a navy in the atlantic ocean?

their navy is in the Med and the Gulf

What about US forces deployed in Germany that have been earmarked for deployment to Iraq?

I'm not aware of that but you're welcome to make change it and post the new file

Why is the rogue leaders name Fidel Castro and not Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong Il?

seniority, and really the person who controls the Rogues decides

Libya was named as part of the axis of evil by bush a while ago, how come they aren't a rogue nation?

In fact Iraq, Iran and North Korea were the "Axis of Evil" but Iraq is the only one America is going to invade

The Maerican F22 raptor isn't currently in service wtih frontline units yet, but you have it placed all around the globe.

how do you know

A-10 Warthogs do NOT fly off carrier decks

well...I don't know how else to include them in the scenario

From looking in the city build list this is a total war scenario, i saw no freights available to build, and capitalization is not an option either so it's only military units to create

freight can be built, if you want to fix the tech tree so improvements can be built, be my guest

Graphics:
I don't like the F-18 graphic or the F-22 graphic

that may be because they are in fact F-15 and F-16 graphics respectively but Pap said he would make some better unit graphics

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Last edited by Choke on 12-03-2003 at 03:20

	12-03-2003 04:29									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Darius871 No they weren't, it was just Iraq, Iran, and NK.

One of Bush's idiot cronies later anounced an expanded 'axis of evil' which added Syria, Libya and Cuba to the list of countries which, despite being on the other sides of the world and having totally different goals and often violent feuds with each other, are aparently working together to bring America to its' knees.

Before you accuse me of believing the 'Cuba, Syria and Libya start axis of just-as-evil' satire article which was everywhere a while ago, check out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wo...000/1971852.stm

As the saying goes, if it wasn't so serious, it would be hilarious.

	12-03-2003 04:46									#16
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Ok well Iran, Syria and Libya are parts of the Muslim civ for gameplay purposes. Cuba for the same reason is part of the Rogues.

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"In fact Iraq, Iran and North Korea were the "Axis of Evil" but Iraq is the only one America is going to invade"

	12-03-2003 06:07									#18
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are all of the civs playable? for humans? it would seem like the rogues would be kind of tough

	12-03-2003 06:55									#19
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Yes, oh I forgot to post the objectives text

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My contribution:

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Pacific:

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	13-03-2003 00:58									#22
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Viva la America!

I'll take em, and world domination will be mine!

	14-03-2003 01:35									#23
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I'll be chinese(PRC)!
Now i'm going to get you capitalist dogs

	14-03-2003 01:45									#24
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It must be remembered that being at war with Iraq doesn't mean you're at war with the rest of the Rogue civ and the Rogue civ should not use troops from one part of their civ ESPECIALLY NOT THE SLEEPER CELLS! in battles or conflicts involving one part of the civ. Doing that will draw the part of the Rogue civ that the troops came from into the conflict.

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I claim the muslims for me

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so we have someone for every nation except the rogues? i wonder how well the game would work without them

	14-03-2003 06:39									#27
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It would not be much fun I don't think, they would use their WMD (nukes) I think and make war on every front.

	14-03-2003 09:27									#28
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Rogues for me!

	14-03-2003 10:23									#29
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The UN demands that Iraq and North Korea disarm immediately.

The UN would like the all the nations of the world to come together in a treaty of nuclear non-proliferation.

	14-03-2003 17:57									#30
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oh... i have no navy... that sucks guys