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Demosthenes1234 is offline Demosthenes1234
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Dec 2002
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Hey I've recently been playing my 4th game with the Psilons. For a while I was going ok but now my empire has sort of panned out and become crap again. Its like taking a while to build ships and stuff. What I really want to know is, how can I get good production planets? HOw many mining/industrial DEA's do I need to build? Should I leave the AI in charge of a planet I want to be like a super duper production planet (like in Moo2) Or do I have to go about it differently? Basically someone just list me the things I have to do. Cuz Im still learning how to play the game and unfortunately the manual doesn't tell me how to play?
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Psilon Production hehehe Good one
Take the Biggest worlds (~8+ sectors and tell the DevPlan to build Man Prim Man Sec. on Large/sweet spot worlds
Production will rise when sufficent Production technolgies have been researched (and if Resources are ready)

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i have a question on that topic...
the pp cost of my units seems to be going up.

for instance, at the begining the bastic "system colony" is like 800, but it has slowly risen to about 950 (on the same planet) without me modifieng it.
why is this?

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Feb 2003
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That latter is the "Heavy Foot of Government" rule, probably the single most controversial rule in the game. It's supposed to represent the accumulation of cliques, bureaucracies, and other inefficient substructures in a large government, but its growth does not actually depend on the size of your empire, and it ends up just being an artificial and arbitrary reduction to everybody's ability to improve colonies and build new toys. Each civ has its own HFoG rating, and you can see them on the Victory tab among the other stats.

This extra multiplier gets applied to everything you do. It grows over time, with only a few things (a couple of random events, a handful of technologies) causing a slight reduction. It goes up faster depending on your government type and oppressometer setting. And of course, with the standard values for spy success, you can't survive without the highest oppressometer setting your people will tolerate.

You can cause a reduction in your own HFoG by having a "governmental purge". Change your government type for one turn, then change it back (assuming you've already picked the government type in your series that you wanted back on Turn 1). Your Government DEAs will shut down (lose their unrest bonuses) for a few turns so you'll have some unrest problems for that long, but you'll have reduced your HFoG substantially. It will of course start to creep up again. (This, and the other forms of HFoG reduction, actually reduce the amount by which your HFoG exceeds 1.0, so you can never get things cheaper than base costs due to HFoG.)

But the computer players don't know about this trick, so they are doomed to ever-higher HFoG. If you do use this trick, you are getting a big unbalanced advantage over them. But if you don't, you will have a heck of a time building lots of big shiny ships with big shiny guns, which many of us really like to do in this sort of game. I haven't tried it myself yet (plan to next game), but this argument leads to the idea of tweaking the appropriate spreadsheet files to reduce or probably just remove all the ways that HFoG increases.

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What about the big foots of indurstion. Big corparateion have the same problen as big government. Some big foot of government is need and came about for some very good reason. Take the FDA( Federal Drug and Food Autheroity) in either 1903 or 1906 Congress pass the pure drug and food act into law as certain corparation where passin cark add to water as milk , decaying meat as wholesome meat and etc.

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