11-03-2003 18:16									#1
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well im trying to find a cunning way of getting a brand new computer with no expense to myself. the current problem is i dont have enough money to do so, and i wont by the time i start school up again even if i work 20 hours a week(the max that they allow me usually).

so i was planning on spending all my money on a road trip and then delibritly destroying both my computers. then pleading with my dad that i cant go to college without a brand spanking new computer.

im already paying my own way for a good share of college, and will in the end wind up paying for more than he is, so i think it be nice on his part to give me a new computer...

anyway, am i just acting like a spoiled little child for plotting this, or am i really just playing the system well?

	11-03-2003 18:19									#2
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Why spend all your money on a road trip?



Either way, you better hope it doesn't back fire and you end up with no computer at all.

	11-03-2003 18:20									#3
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Why not just sell your old computers and inform the insurance company that you accidentaly dropped them from your balcony or something and cash in on them a second time?

	11-03-2003 18:21									#4
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I vote spoiled little child. Be a man, make a deal. Your father deserves better.

	11-03-2003 18:33									#5
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Sell your body

	11-03-2003 18:34									#6
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my dad doesnt make deals anymore because he thinks im an adult and i pay for everything i want. except i cant afford large expenditures like this, or when my car broke down two times. in fact if my mom hadnt bailed me out on my car i would have owed more than 2200 dollars on 2000 dollar car i paid for with my own money.

ill try going the deal route but i doubt that he will have any of it unless there is an obvious need for a new one.

	11-03-2003 18:35									#7
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this is just wrong in so many ways
and you know it.

grow up , don't use and manipulate the people who
care about you the most . you're lucky to have someone
able to help you with college expenses.
be grateful

	11-03-2003 18:42									#8
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What are your current two computers?

	11-03-2003 18:42									#9
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i dont feel any more lucky than my friends who had their parents buy them cars, pay for their entire college, and buy them new computers before they left for college.

im more grateful towards my mom who works at stanford who is paying for 95% of my actual tuition, makes half the money my dad makes, and still finds it in her heart to financially put her neck out for me when i dont ask her to.

	11-03-2003 18:44									#10
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nice Rah... I couldn't have said it better myself. Get a damn job and be a man. I got a job when I was 14 in order to pay for my own first computer. The last thing you want to be is accountable to your parents anyways. And you're in college? Sheesh

	11-03-2003 18:53									#11
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The first is a pentium II 300 MHZ 64mbs Ram, 8 gig drive. the second is a pentium III 1 ghz 512 MBs pc133 Ram, 40 gig drive and 80 gig drive(which i plan on harvesting for a new computer)

sava, i have a job. i cant find another one because of my current job and conflicting hours. Ive had a job to buy most everything ive wanted including my car and my last computer. im not in college yet, i will be in a few months...

	11-03-2003 18:56									#12
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quote: pentium III 1 ghz 512 MBs pc133 Ram

Thats fairly decent. If you can't get by on that, my vote goes to spoiled little child.

	11-03-2003 18:56									#13
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What's wrong with the computers you already have? I've got a P166 desktop and a 486 laptop, and I'm fine with them. I really don't think you need a brand new computer.

	11-03-2003 19:00									#14
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im going to school for music production and will be using my computer a lot for it. my 1ghz is already struggling with my current music setup which isnt even being used to half the maximum of what i would use it for.

	11-03-2003 19:01									#15
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Ha! yeah right, you just want to play computer games.

	11-03-2003 19:03									#16
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actually im not going to buy a graphics card for my computer because i wont be needing it...thats 100 dollars saved right there

	11-03-2003 19:03									#17
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Are you knowledgable enough to build a computer? Or do you need to buy a pre-built one? Just curious. If you have a job then buy it yourself. Buying components seperate is a lot cheaper than wasting money on a computer from a store or from a company like Dell. And even if you have to buy from Dell or Gateway, you can get financing so you can pay like 20-100 bucks a month. The positives from doing so are:
1. you aren't being a little spoiled kid
2. you are establishing good credit
3. the computer will be yours and you won't have to rely on your parents

	11-03-2003 19:05									#18
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I am building it myself...

	11-03-2003 19:09									#19
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quote: is this wrong?

It's really sad that you even have to ask this question...

	11-03-2003 19:12									#20
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i have the moral compass of a starving rat!

	11-03-2003 19:22									#21
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Obviously...

	11-03-2003 19:24									#22
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will you be buying the kids expensive things when they reach their teenage years? would you really deprive happiness from your children?

	11-03-2003 19:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 so i was planning on spending all my money on a road trip and then delibritly destroying both my computers. then pleading with my dad that i cant go to college without a brand spanking new computer.

An amusing plan son, just one little mistake......

	11-03-2003 19:38									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 will you be buying the kids expensive things when they reach their teenage years? would you really deprive happiness from your children?

My 14 year old buys many of the more expensive things herself... She works and earns the money. If she can't afford something... she saves for it and works more hours. It makes her appreciate things more...

Oh... and expensive gifts doesn't buy happiness...

	11-03-2003 19:45									#26
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youre right. everything that is expensive that i have right now i have bought on my own...

its just with all my budgeting and penny pinching and ebaying im still going to come up short for this expendeture. this is something that will not only help me in school but also make life more enjoyable by enabling me to continue to create music...

and i just feel resentful towards my dad because he pleads poverty to me while he takes 2 trips to europe a year.

	11-03-2003 19:47									#27
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Some of the weakest justification I have ever heard.

It's wrong and you know it... so deal with it in another way.

	11-03-2003 19:49									#28
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which is what im trying to do by bouncing progressively better ideas off you

	11-03-2003 19:52									#29
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poverty exists because the richer wont share. Your course of action is just MRT, proceed!

	11-03-2003 19:53									#30
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should i make a deal where i take out a loan with him and repay him with zero interest at a later date?

or possibly taking 10 dollars a week out of my weekly food allotment and using that to pay back a loan for my computer.