11-03-2003 22:58									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Spectator Ok sorry, I mistook you for the average american...looks like you aren't.

I'm amazed at how people claim to be open minded and still seem to make stupid comments like this. So tell me, what is the average American?

*hands Spectator more rope*

	11-03-2003 23:00									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber what is the average American?

The banjo player from deliverance comes to mind

	11-03-2003 23:12									#33
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quote: *hands Spectator more rope*

Don't worry, he's already hung himself .

	11-03-2003 23:14									#34
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quote: protestantism is generally more individualistic, isn't it? and america has traditionally been dominated by protestants.

Gangerolf:

Individualistic in the sense that you should read your bible and can make some interpretations yourself. With anabaptists, like I am, you have this concept of individual faith and repentence not found as much with Catholicism.

As per families, Protestants stress close family relationships, no different from Catholics.

quote: Would you trust male authority figures if you were Catholic?

Drake, no wonder they ask for Mary's intercession.

	11-03-2003 23:16									#35
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Why is collectivism so strong in China?

Ancestor worship. If you don't, they'll haunt you. BOO!

	11-03-2003 23:20									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz The banjo player from deliverance comes to mind

I said average American , not average West Virginian.

Tell me about the Newfies. Are they really the Canadian Rednecks or am I mistaken

	11-03-2003 23:26									#37
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Gangerolf: Individualistic in the sense that you should read your bible and can make some interpretations yourself.

True, this is the original meaning of the word, but it has become a gerneralized concept.

	11-03-2003 23:43									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Tell me about the Newfies. Are they really the Canadian Rednecks or am I mistaken

The Rednecks are in Alberta.

The Newfies are our only source of unique english-canadian culture, (music). By thunderin', we're lucky
to have them.

	11-03-2003 23:43									#39
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quote: Individualistic in the sense that you should read your bible and can make some interpretations yourself. With anabaptists, like I am, you have this concept of individual faith and repentence not found as much with Catholicism. As per families, Protestants stress close family relationships, no different from Catholics.

one thing leads to another. one can argue that individualism with relations to e.g. religion, have led to more acceptance for independent thinking and doing what you want to do wtr to other aspects of life.

while protestants do have close family relations, moving away from your parents early (doesn't mean you stop seeing them) is perhaps more common because the belief that "everyone has to do what he feels is right" is so deeply implanted

	11-03-2003 23:48									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I thought Canadians were supposed to have a sense of humor...

He lives in Montreal.

	11-03-2003 23:49									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Asher He lives in Montreal.

Poor Bastard!

	11-03-2003 23:49									#42
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quote: belief that "everyone has to do what he feels is right" is so deeply implanted.

Gangerolf:
This is somewhat problematic, because Christians affirm the negative sense, not the positive. One should refrain from doing whatever one's conscience feels is wrong, even if your conscience is in error.

Some matters would fall under this, such as religious faith. But lifestyle? Something which feel good, may not be the best for you.

	11-03-2003 23:49									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz The Rednecks are in Alberta.

The Rednecks are in rural Alberta and rural Ontario.

My God, every time I go to visit my relatives in small-town Ontario I cry myself to sleep...so sad.

	12-03-2003 00:37									#44
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Individualism is great. I want to be in control of my own destiny and that means trying to owe as little as possible, implicitlyu or explicitly, to my relatives.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher The Rednecks are in rural Alberta and rural Ontario. My God, every time I go to visit my relatives in small-town Ontario I cry myself to sleep...so sad.

Good point, and quit sleepin' in the top of the onion barn when you visit!

	12-03-2003 08:34									#46
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Why is collectivism so strong in China?

Not collectivism, family values. Same with the Jews, the Italians, some other continental Europeans, other East and South East Asians, South and Central Americans, probably Mexicans, and probably Arabs as well.

	12-03-2003 10:00									#47
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its a whole slew of answers, that varies on the person. For a lot of Americans tho, I agree that once they move out to go to college, they aint goin back home to live.

For those who dont go to college, they wanna move out for the attracting the opposite sex reasons mentioned already.

And the possible religious resons that have already been mentioned are also a possibility.

There is also the cultural element as well. Hollywood and music and stuff probably perpetuate the individuality and independence of the culture. There are probably numerous other reasons, adn for many people, any combonation of these reasons could explain their indipendence.

	12-03-2003 10:14									#48
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Even if attracting the opposite sex isn't a problem, you have much more opportunity to put that attraction to good use if you don't live with your parents.

And in other news, I am moving out from my parents house this Saturday!!

	12-03-2003 10:19									#49
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I guess it's a cultural thing.

I did not like the guy my mom was living with. And I lived in a shitty apartment downtown anyways.

In any case I had to do something with my life. I guess I could have lived at home and went to our local university. It's not a great university, but it is a division I school.

But I had the urge to go out and see the world. What can I say.

In any case I am buying my own house, and I still can't get laid

	12-03-2003 10:53									#50
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It is entirely cultural. They don't have worse family values then east Asians or Latin Americans but they certainly do have different ideas about how one should act. Also I think affuence has something to do with it. If you live in a poorer area where everyone can't afford to have there own home then it is natural to stick with family. Anglo-Saxon countries are wealthy so this teams up with the culture to get kids out of the house by their very early 20s at the latest.

	12-03-2003 11:27									#51
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Alot if it has to do with the nature of parent-child relations in the United State. I think most parents in the US either explicity or implicitly belive that "If you live under my roof, you live under my rules"- meaning the child doesn't have any rights short of not being the subject of violence and has to obey their parents. But our culture has no specifically marked transition date where one ceases to be a child and becomes an adult. Legally you become an adult at age 18, but that doesn't mean your parents are going to start treating you like an adult at age 18; especially if you are still living under their roof.

People naturally want to be free to live their life the way they see fit. Continuing to live with your parents after you have graduated high school often means your parents will try to maintain some authority to one degree or another. Hence, it is natural for people to move out of the house when they graduate high school.

Also another factor involved is differing lifestyles between your average high school graduate and the average parent thereof. When people are at the age that they have just graduated high school, they are often into stuff such as very loud music, coming home drunk, and staying up into the early morning hours. This can lead to difficulties if you are living with parents.

	12-03-2003 12:13									#52
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Is it strong in Canada?

Last edited by LoneWolf on 12-03-2003 at 12:22