12-03-2003 00:44									#1
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Here is a short Bio:
I am 19 years old. I am a Freshman with sophmore status at the University of Wisconsin. I Live in Brainerd MN(when not at college). I am a big sports fan. got season tickets to Bagers BAsketball (BIG TEN CHAMPS) I played Baseball throughout High school. I am going into history, and possibly international Relations. I enjoy reading novels. I really got into the Jack Ryan Series. (Cardinal of the Kremlin throught Executive Ordes) I also really enjoy beer .
Favorites:
book-Shogun by James Clavell
Movie- Jurassic Park (when I was in the theators)
Food-Pasta
Music-Pink Floyd
Team- Twins (Always been a fan, not just from last year)

any questions?
why don't you let mr know a little about you?

	12-03-2003 01:29									#2
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He lives in the right part of the country. I have relatives in Wisconsin. Brainerd is less than 100 miles from where I grew up.

	12-03-2003 02:36									#3
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where did you grow up?

	12-03-2003 04:02									#4
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forgot to put my e-mail here it is. mjmacy@wisc.edu

ps. please send me the save so I can get a feel one what is happening

	12-03-2003 04:05									#5
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I am a gread student at the University of Maryland

I have freinds at Madison

I am the Whip and FA for GS

I would reccomend reading the threads, getting the map (which I will forward to you when I get home) and the save file (someone else will ahve to do that, I don't have it)

I cannot put enough importance on reading the threads

in another week or so, we will find you a more permanent active position (I am thinking of a third controller or an FA) if you want it, or an advisor position if that is more interesting to you (or some new position that might be needed)

Jon Miller

	12-03-2003 04:27									#6
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OK I got your e-mail added to my address book. I'll try to get you some screen shots.

	12-03-2003 05:47									#7
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quote: mjmacy wrote: where did you grow up?

Chisholm, MN

	12-03-2003 06:36									#8
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I have been to Chisholm many times. My Grandmother use to live there.

	12-03-2003 07:02									#9
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Macy - screen shots from last turn sent.

Regarding the save, you should be aware that jon has taken a pledge on behalf of the team regarding fair play. This now applies to you as well. You are to use only the proper method for opening the save - which is from the main screen using load game. Do NOT load from the in game option. There is a load bug that all teams are aware of and everyone is committed to not using. OK?

When the save is sent - jon will PM or e-mail the password to you.

The save will probably be sent around in a couple turns.

There are temples in The Voice and Miller Town. And a granary in the Voice.

We have all techs of the ancient era except for polytheism, currency, constuction, republic, and monarchy.

We are playing Persia - obviously.

We have a border treaty with Gathering Storm to the south. The border runs east-west just below Dissidentville. The road was our early effort at staking out territory and not being closed off at the chokepoint.

The various warriors down south are observers to make sure both parties abide by the treaty.

We have a strong tech trading realationship with GS. They are researching republic which should get us to a govt change before the others.

	12-03-2003 07:11									#10
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This was my bio I posted at the intersite DG forum. You will notice that jon and I represent opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to the how much we write.

I'm BetaHound.

Or simply Beta. (maybe I should ask Ming to drop the Hound part. Someone keeps calling me 'doggie'. woof).

I joined Apolyton in November for the ptwdg. I am already at 1400 posts, which even surprises me. The PTWDG, ISDG, C3DG, and some pbem's will do it. I almost never visit the OT stuff. I 'watched' Apolyton for well over a year before joining. I have all of rpodos(Theseus), Velocyrix, Arrian strategy stuff printed, re-read many times, and put into practice with many, many games of civ3. I am one of the few folks on Vox Controli, which means you get to provide lots of input. Having the entire strategy group I mentioned above on one team - Gathering Storm - and having them as your neighbours in the ptwdg, well, it made for an interesting start.

I took on the job of getting Apolyton into the ISDG, and dealing with the other sites. A lot of this has gone smoothly. Some stuff did not. I think I should've recruited some help earlier on. But hey, we got here, and I feel a big sense of relief now that the consuls have taken charge. Thank-you to one and all who have supported this game.

Arnelos posted this above which made me chuckle:

"I was raised on strategy games. No joke. My father was a grognard strategy gamer going back to the 60s, so I suppose it's only to be expected that I was indoctrinated from an early age... He has quite the library "

Well, I'm clearly not your Dad, and I didn't start in the 60's, I started in my high school years (70-74). But I was/am a grognard. All the early Avalon Hill games and the Strategy and Tactics stuff. And yes - I have quite the games library, which is probably worth a bit right now. I could not stand any of the D and D stuff - with the university gaming club's back then clearly split into either the wargame or the fantasy camps. C'mon - what do you want to command - a German Panzer Division closing in on Moscow, or gaggle of orcs duking it out with a dragon. Give me a break.

Same with my reading. I love history and science fiction. Fantasy you can toss, thank-you very much.

Dabbled with lots of computer war and strategy games, until of course, Civ3 came along. Then, well , you know ...

In RL I am a director of a social housing department at the municipal level - I manage a sizeable number of managers and staff, and a large portfolio of social/public housing projects. We do a lot of work helping to house the homeless. I have been in this field my entire career - having graduated with a commerce degree in 1980.(after trying engineering and geology).

I also have done a fair bit of sailing in my life, and have taken a year's sabbatical, sailed out the St.Lawrence and down to the Caribbean. That was the late 80's. Also bought and sailed a boat back from Tortola to NYC via Bermuda in the mid-90's. And in 2000 I spent three weeks sailing the Cyclades islands of Greece. I also do a fair bit of adventure and trail hiking.

I'm 46. I'm married, no kids, living in Toronto Canada.

	12-03-2003 07:33									#11
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quote: high school years (70-74) All the early Avalon Hill games

That brings back a LOT of memories.

	12-03-2003 07:59									#12
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I am into the early avalon hill games also

(don't own many though, have a couple of first edition third reichs, have played panzer blitz, played africa corps, and a lot of that generation)

currently O a, getting a collection of Advanced Squad Leader modules as well as picking up the random strategy game (and always lookng out for some of my older favorites (mmm, D-Day))

Jon Miller

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Some of my faves were 1914 - one of Jim Dunnigan of S&T fame early games. Also Jutland. Anzio. PanzerBlitz of course. And I loved the early Midway game - but traded it away.

I have probably have over 100 games in boxes in the basement.

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that is great

I ahve played Midway a time or two also

the problem is getting players, I can get players for newwer games like Civ (the boardgame, not the one based on the computer game), Rome, and settlers

and there are ASL groups in the DC area (which I should join)

but I think the other, older games are mostly in basements

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I am into the early avalon hill games also (don't own many though, have a couple of first edition third reichs, have played panzer blitz, played africa corps, and a lot of that generation) currently O a, getting a collection of Advanced Squad Leader modules as well as picking up the random strategy game (and always lookng out for some of my older favorites (mmm, D-Day)) Jon Miller

You may be 22 Jon - but I can tell - you really want to be older.

	12-03-2003 08:26									#16
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I used to play the AH games with my brothers. When I went to college everyone was interested in D&D. Somehow I found out about this guy on the east coast that offered a PBM server for Third Reich. I joined up and stayed with it for about 5 years, until his RL got in the way. He had about 20 games going at a time. People would sign up to play a country in one or more games. One month the allies sent in their moves, the next month the axis did. Each month he collected the moves, did all the die rolls, and sent out a newsletter with the moves and results. We contributed some $$ to cover his costs for the newsletter. It was lots of fun.

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I want to get a newer edition of third reich

the first edition I have heard is not as good (the map and rules)

and there were soem things that confused me the couple of times I attempted it

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by HarryH I used to play the AH games with my brothers. When I went to college everyone was interested in D&D. Somehow I found out about this guy on the east coast that offered a PBM server for Third Reich. I joined up and stayed with it for about 5 years, until his RL got in the way. He had about 20 games going at a time. People would sign up to play a country in one or more games. One month the allies sent in their moves, the next month the axis did. Each month he collected the moves, did all the die rolls, and sent out a newsletter with the moves and results. We contributed some $$ to cover his costs for the newsletter. It was lots of fun.

I never got involved in anything like that. Sounds like a hoot. I too played most of my wargames with one high school buddy and my brother. When we go to the family cottage now, the rest of them get peeved with us because he and I will stay up until 2am playing Stalingrad or something like that.

And Jon - I imagine it would be difficult to find folks to play. And yes - mine are all in the basement too.

	12-03-2003 09:17									#19
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quote: Originally posted by BetaHound I joined Apolyton in November for the ptwdg. I am already at 1400 posts, which even surprises me.

Since I posted this bio in the ISDG a few weeks back, I have added over 300 posts.

This is scary.

	12-03-2003 09:21									#20
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well, my 1000 post is in this forum (I think)

and you now have more posts than I

(and I have been here since early 1999)

Jon Miller

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quote: why don't you let mr know a little about you?

I'm Eli. 18, from Ashdod, Israel.

I was born in the Soviet Union and our entire family moved to Israel in 1991.

I'm about to finish school now. Next year I'll either go to the Army or to the University(Army pays) and then to the Army.

I'm on Poly for quite a while. Almost 3 years. I started in the Civ2 forums but quickly discovered the OT and spent the vast majority of my Poly time there since then.
Currently i'm posting less and less in the OT(nothing new under the sun), and busy mainly with PBEM games.

I've never been a good civ player, Monarch is the best I can manage.

Ummm... I spend most of the time reading, more or less everything I can put my hands on.

Hmph, that's it I think.

	12-03-2003 22:59									#22
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My name is Dissident.

hmm I'm never good writing about myself

I'm in my late 20's. I spent 8 years in the U.S. Navy. Now I returned to where I grew up- Las Vegas. I knew I could find a decent job here. My main interests are hiking, movies, music, and of course computer games. I lived in places like Orlando, FL, Charleston, SC, Norfolk, VA (and Newport News and Hampton), and Pascagoula, MS. I was an east coast guy- so the places I have been all center around the Mediterranean sea and the Persian gulf. I wanted to do one WestPAC, but I couldn't get transferred over here . Right now I'm a tech and go around and fix things. I like working with my hands.

I primarily play RPG's and TBS games like SMAC, and Civ3. In fact aside from multiplayer I don't play any single player civ3. I usually stayed on monarch level in civ3. I've never liked dealing with happiness problems. In civ2 I stayed on King or emporer level. And in Smac I stayed on Thinker Transcend level.

But right now I'm still playing RPG's heavily. Baldur's Gate 2 being my favourite- I'm in a game right now. I still occasionally play Fallout2. And I'm also playing Icewind Dale 2, and Neverwinter Nights- multiplayer modules. And of coures PBEMS and demo games for civ3. And pbem's for SMAC.

	13-03-2003 01:57									#23
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My AH games are stacked on the upper shelves of my book cases in my computer room. I took a look last night and I have both first and third editions of Third Reich, Afrika Corps, Victory in the Pacific, Panzer Blitz (I think one of my brothers had Panzer Leader), and about a dozen more, plus a few non-AH games. All collecting dust now. I have often thought of trying to take the basic concepts of one of those games and turning it into a computer game. Maybe if I ever find myself out of work...

quote: Beta wrote: I never got involved in anything like that. Sounds like a hoot.

It was a hoot. I also did a few individual PBM games but the newsletter thing was far more interesting. Besides playing a few games yourself you could watch a lot of other games being played. Players would sometimes submit articles/news to include with the games info in a role play style. Occasionally someone would drop out of a game but there were enough people that someone else usually picked up their spot and the game continued.

I really like the TBS type strategy games and I basically play everything SP (except for this one of course). It fits my time availability better and I like to be able to stop and think about what I want to do. Everyonce in a while I do something different for a change (e.g, Mech Warrior or AoE2) but I always come back to Civ style games. I never tried the RPGs but some day I may pick up a real cheap one (i.e., an old popular one now in the bargain bin) just to see what they are like.