12-03-2003 03:49									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed my dear, you know what it does to me when i you freedom kiss me near the freedom windows in that lovely freedom maid outfit of yours... would you like to see the freedom baguette?

no I would like to see the freedom fighters in the US... oops the French fighters that is ...

	12-03-2003 04:29									#32
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Hey, remember 3rd Rock From The Sun? Man, that Freedom Stewart sure was that who made the show complete.

	12-03-2003 04:31									#33
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Does this mean I have to change my handle, or risk being branded a pinko-subversive candy-ass to be ruined by John Ashcroft and his neo-HUAAC?

	12-03-2003 04:33									#34
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One blog site, Eschaton, now reports that in response, France is renaming itself The Republic of Freedom.

	12-03-2003 04:34									#35
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quote: Originally posted by uh Clem One blog site, Eschaton, now reports that in response, France is renaming itself The Republic of Freedom.

	12-03-2003 04:39									#36
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Tell me this whole tread is just a joke, right?

How many times hasn't USA used its veto to block some idiotic suggestion? That's what the veto is for!

	12-03-2003 04:53									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Hey, remember 3rd Rock From The Sun? Man, that Freedom Stewart sure was that who made the show complete.

Freedom Stuart is also the new Inspector Gadget.

ACK!

	12-03-2003 04:54									#38
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This is the real time for those smilies. In fact, I guess they were invented for this exact occasion.

	12-03-2003 07:50									#40
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Excuse me now, I'm just gonna go ask a girl for a patriotic kiss - for the good of the country, you know!

	12-03-2003 08:39									#41
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This folks, is what a Republican House means....

The sad part is that there are actually important things afoot: one congressman wants to have the Us airforce boycott the Paris airshow. Another wants to pass legislation prohibitting French companies from participain gin the reconstuction of Iraq. "freedom" fires is a stupid waste of time and an utter joke. Those other measures are not.

	12-03-2003 08:45									#42
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Yeah I think we should call condoms FREEDOM LETTERS!!! Those cheese eating surrender monkeys don't deserve to have a slime-filled squidgy amine-reeking used prophylactic named after them!!! GO TEAM US!1!1!1!!!!11

[looks around quickly, dusts self off]

*ahem*

[quickly wipes drool off chin]

*dammit Voice I'm on Poly*

	12-03-2003 09:23									#43
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quote: This folks, is what a Republican House means....

Let's face facts, GePap, and admit that the House is a joke no matter which party is in control. There's a reason we clean it out (or should) every two years...

	12-03-2003 11:05									#44
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Freedom Letters covering Freedom Baguettes?

	12-03-2003 11:47									#45
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I'm all for renaming french fries and french toast.

But freedom fries sounds dorky.

there has to be a better name out there.

	12-03-2003 11:54									#46
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Liberty steak!

Anyways, it's nice to see Congress doing such an important thing while our rights are being taken away, our economy is tanking, and we're on the verge of an unjust war.

	12-03-2003 11:56									#47
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It's only unjust for the losers

	12-03-2003 11:58									#48
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You're saying the Shrub is a loser? You'll find no disagreement with me.

	12-03-2003 12:01									#49
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Um... the people that say Congress is wasting time when they could be doing 'important' things fail to realize that Congress isn't in session 24/7 passing bills of vital importance to the union.

They have plenty of free time, and this is something they can do by themselves, without having Presidential approval.

	12-03-2003 12:07									#50
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Yes, but this is an important time for the US. There should be rational discussions on war in Iraq rather than idiotic Francophobia.

	12-03-2003 12:19									#51
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Congress already authorized the President to use force. There are not enough votes to rescind that authorization. Hence, debates on the war would be a waste of time.

	12-03-2003 12:25									#52
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Yes, but debates are intended to change minds.

	12-03-2003 12:28									#53
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When someone proposes a bill, then maybe there will be debate, which will end quickly when the majority either votes it down or tables the bill.

Congress doesn't just have random debate time, you know?

	12-03-2003 12:31									#54
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There is no "Francophobia". Phobia means fear. No one is afraid of France. People are, quite rightly, pissed off that our supposed ally is not merely disagreeing with us, which would be fine, but actively, busily opposing us.

The french fries thing is a silly, but symbolic, act.

I certainly hope we take some more serious action.

	12-03-2003 12:40									#55
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quote: When someone proposes a bill, then maybe there will be debate, which will end quickly when the majority either votes it down or tables the bill. Congress doesn't just have random debate time, you know?

Yes, and anti-war folk should keep on bringing it up. And they should spend time seriously debating the war instead of doing idiotic things like this.

quote: There is no "Francophobia". Phobia means fear. No one is afraid of France.

Fine. An irrational hatred of all things French. Better?

quote: People are, quite rightly, pissed off that our supposed ally is not merely disagreeing with us, which would be fine, but actively, busily opposing us.

Yes, an ally is to do what it is told by its other allies. An alliance isn't a one-way relationship.

	12-03-2003 12:47									#56
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No, not better, because it has nothing to do with hatred. Fear. And its not irrational just because you disagree with it.

Anyway, you don't seem to be reading. I don't mind that they disagree. I don't mind that they refuse to help. Both things are within the scope of the concept "ally". Active opposition is not.

	12-03-2003 12:50									#57
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You have a narrow view of what an ally is. An ally doesn't drop its own interests for the supposed interests of its "ally." It's a two-way relationship. France isn't our vassal. The UK is.

	12-03-2003 12:50									#58
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quote: Yes, and anti-war folk should keep on bringing it up.

And it will keep getting tabled, and there will be no debate on it. The motion for tabling does not include debate on the merits of the bill itself, but on why the bill should be considered (ie, what is new about this).

	12-03-2003 12:54									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo You have a narrow view of what an ally is. An ally doesn't drop its own interests for the supposed interests of its "ally." It's a two-way relationship. France isn't our vassal. The UK is.

It doesn't? So what does an ally do? Run around the world actively stirring up opposition to its other ally? If so, why do we want allies?

	12-03-2003 12:57									#60
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The US isn't exactly being the best ally to France either.

It's been pursuing an Iraq war since 2001, and hasn't listened to its allies' objections.

So suck it. You get what you give. You've been feeding the Euros ****, and they'll feed it back to you.