24-02-2001 10:43									#1
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Saw this news today: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/200...st_wreck_1.html

First thing I thought of was Trireme lost at sea.

Cool!

	24-02-2001 06:45									#2
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I knew that trireme shore radius was wrong!

By the way a little story about a trireme that I take the risk of saying althought it can destroy my good relation with SG,EAST and all englishmen FOREVER. (nah

I don't remember were I have read this (it was at school) but it is a story-myth that was written in (which work??? in ancient greek.

A trireme from some part of ancient Greece gets lost in the Atlantic (as the ancient greeks called the, em, Atlantic ocean). It gets by the shores of Aglia (England). The men are all thirsty, hungry and exhausted from travelling so long lost. They need food and water or they will die. I can't remember why, but they had a virgin girl with them!

So they approach the shores of Agglia and look for any signs of inhabitants on the shores. They travel some distance along the shores and discover a pack of men that were dressed in rags and were half men, half-wolf . The men in the trireme started making jokes about the wolfmen's smell, rags etc. among themselves.
They ask them for food and the wolfmen replied that they have to have the virgin or they will not give anything to the men in the trireme. After some thought the men in the trireme hand over the virgin to the wolfmen and the later give them food and proceeded in doing various things to the virgin.

Moral of the story: ?

	27-02-2001 16:39									#3
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you know my tiremes could sail all the way around the world just by hugging the poles! why haven't the greeks thought of that.

makes you think I should get the benefits of magellans after doing that

	27-02-2001 19:56									#5
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I suspect that story says more about the Greeks than about the English!!
* Large Wolfish grin *

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	01-03-2001 00:48									#6
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This is true. What a bunch of ****ers. They gave up the girl to save their asses. Where is chivalry and where is pride. On the other hand if they didn't, you wouldn't have Thatcher (is this a good or bad thing?

P.S. Just let me emphasise here that the abandonment of innocent virgins does not characterise any man other than those ****ers on the trireme (I hope!)

	05-03-2001 18:12									#7
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The Trojan War was the result of a Trojan prince running off with the wife of a Greek prince while a houseguest of that prince. I don't remember the details (names, etc.); what I do remember is that it wasn't the runnng off with the wife that upset the entire Greek nation--it was running off with the wife while a houseguest...

	07-03-2001 10:46									#8
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Speaking of the news and how it relates to Civ,
maybe civ3 will have a new speacial attack feature for submarines:

The Surfacing underneath an enemy ship attack!!

The only problem is that it would cause diplomacy to suffer.
(Hey, well, diplomacy suffered a bit in the same area 60 years ago!)

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	06-03-2001 23:56									#9
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Cool find! Many academics don't give ancient people the credit they most definitely deserve - they lag years behind what many amateurs and non-tenured researchers know. How about these pre-1000 b.c. inventions:

batteries (sorry, probably only used to electroplate metals)
clocks
flush toilets
accurate calendars
and so much more...

	08-03-2001 10:49									#10
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more civ related news:

youre the number one power by a long shot.

Youre thinking of building SDI in most cities.

the next three powers (Russia, China, and France) with whom you are respectively at peace, at peace, and allied, all threaten that your reputation will decline markedly if you build.

Plus SDI is expensive, and, together with the planned increase in luxuries (tax cut) and your plan to build up cash (eliminate debt)will prevent you from expanding other parts of your armed forces or making major investments in infrastucture. And to top it all, the game designers have cleverly introduced a random factor so that you dont know if the SDIs will be 100% effective against incooming missiles.

So what do you do?
Ah, The George W scenario for Civ2.

Lord of the Mark

	12-03-2001 15:32									#11
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Civ, and its relavence to the contempory world. Sounds like a journal article; or a cheap talkshows next subject. You decide.